Hamilton the Songbird

[LKing25]

Hugh J...I am sure if you email Willy and Rudy they will be able to provide you with plenty of info on the amount of juice Ullrich liked with his pie....more/as much/less?....are we really going to prove that here?

He was a teen prodigy....like others....and he also served his team leader, Mr 60% very ably in 97 at the tour....on that famously dope free German Team....but it was only in 99 that it all went really bad

....then i say why did he lose by 6 minutes on average to him from 2000-05....Well, you maybe under no allusion about his doping but, just maybe, you are about his notorious fondess for a bratwurst and and those party size beer jugs in the off season which just might have contributed

Lance Armstrong killed cycling stone dead in 1999....Armstrong apologists are the people who are holding this sport back and keeping it in the stone age.....Hey if it died in 99 what the a*rse have we all been watching since then?...LA didn't invent EPO or doping and didn't even revolutionise it's use....and if this is the stone age then I actually wonder if you own a TV

Okay so i went over with the top with my previous post however Armstrong caused cycling damage by his refusal to speak out against doping and by continuing with a doping regime when their was a great oppurtunity to make a clear break.

Indeed his love of partying and the fact he was overweight and undertrained suggests that he had an exceptional talent which he squandered and yet was still able to be the 2nd best cyclist in the world.

 

[straydog]

and sorry....just to add....the East Germans never had any form on doping their juniors?

Yawn....Stretch....Is that coffee I smell?

 

[straydog]

Indeed his love of partying and the fact he was overweight and undertrained suggests that he had an exceptional talent which he squandered and yet was still able to be the 2nd best cyclist in the world.

No one in their right mind would question Ullrichs physical ability. It was his discipline they would.....talent and discipline, I would suggest, are two essential ingredients to being "1st best"

 

[Hugh Januss]

and sorry....just to add....the East Germans never had any form on doping their juniors?

Yawn....Stretch....Is that coffee I smell?

It is, and you do.

 

[Polish]

He was working with Rick "Blood spinners" Crawford and Chris "Extract of Cortisone" Comical as a teen.

Please explain how this headstart thing works when Lance was already a Pro for 3 years while Jan was riding on a U23 team? Tell us about these special east German wonder drugs that work 5 years after you take them.

Was Jan clean on the u23 Team?
Jan doped earlier in his life than Lance did.
Jan won the TdF on EPO earlier than Lance did.

back on topic....did Tyler work with Rudy over at rock racing?

 

[MacRoadie]

Was Jan clean on the u23 Team?
Jan doped earlier in his life than Lance did.
Jan won the TdF on EPO earlier than Lance did.

back on topic....did Tyler work with Rudy over at rock racing?

Back off topic:

"Was Jan clean on the u23 Team?" Why ask us? It's your contention that he wasn't, you show the proof.

While you're at it, can you quickly provide a cite for "Jan doped earlier in his life than Lance did" please.

ETA: Although it is nice to see that you now acknowledge that Lance did, in fact, dope.

 

[Anonymous]

I don't usually pull the 'links please' card, but I'd be really really interested to know your basis for making this statement.

He got the free egg roll.

 

[Realist]

No one in their right mind would question Ullrichs physical ability. It was his discipline they would.....talent and discipline, I would suggest, are two essential ingredients to being "1st best"

Noone in their right mind would question the discipline of a professional athlete who got second place in the most prestigious event in their sport. Seriously, people have such a warped view of Ullrich's career.

 

[Anonymous]

Back off topic:

"Was Jan clean on the u23 Team?" Why ask us? It's your contention that he wasn't, you show the proof.

While you're at it, can you quickly provide a cite for "Jan doped earlier in his life than Lance did" please.

ETA: Although it is nice to see that you now acknowledge that Lance did, in fact, dope.

Hey old masters cycling man,,, take it easy on the request for facts. Must be the bad air out in "PLACENTA CALI."

 

[9000ft]

Man, If nothing comes of this a lot of you guys are going to have a serious case of blue balls.

 

[Wallace]

If Hamilton does corroborate any of Landis' claims, it will be damaging to LA (and also to Andy Rihs--Team BMC could be collateral damage, which would be sad), but LA will also be able to claim that he's just another doper with no credibility trying to get more time in the media. Unless Tyler has some sort of proof, anything he says will mainly add the heat of the court fight. To really nail Armstrong we'll need someone to step forward and verify Landis who has never been found guilty of any doping offenses. Still, I hope Hamilton sings like a nightingale.

 

[Anonymous]

He was working with Rick "Blood spinners" Crawford and Chris "Extract of Cortisone" Comical as a teen.

Please explain how this headstart thing works when Lance was already a Pro for 3 years while Jan was riding on a U23 team? Tell us about these special east German wonder drugs that work 5 years after you take them.

Mericans don't do drugs when they are U23. Anything other than that would be Un merican!

 

[flicker]

If Hamilton does corroborate any of Landis' claims, it will be damaging to LA (and also to Andy Rihs--Team BMC could be collateral damage, which would be sad), but LA will also be able to claim that he's just another doper with no credibility trying to get more time in the media. Unless Tyler has some sort of proof, anything he says will mainly add the heat of the court fight. To really nail Armstrong we'll need someone to step forward and verify Landis who has never been found guilty of any doping offenses. Still, I hope Hamilton sings like a nightingale.

Nothing in it for Tyler, oh wait. He and Flandis could destroy another Rihs cycling team ala Phonak. Oh happy happy joy joy. Destroy Pro Cycling guys.

 

[Anonymous]

Man, If nothing comes of this a lot of you guys are going to have a serious case of blue balls.

Or a serious case of blue ball.

 

[Anonymous]

According to a friend of Ullrich's on another forum, Ullrich is writing a book.

Based on the few quotes he has made on the subject of doping since retiring, I am betting that will be a pretty good book.

 

[Anonymous]

Man, If nothing comes of this a lot of you guys are going to have a serious case of blue balls.

You offering happy ending massages or something? Cause you sure seem interested in our balls all of a sudden.

 

[editedbymod]

Has this been linked yet? http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory?id=11307268

Sweetheart deal?

You offering happy ending massages or something? Cause you sure seem interested in our balls all of a sudden.

 

[red_flanders]

Has this been linked yet? http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory?id=11307268

Sweetheart deal?

Look who the source is. Armstrong's lawyer. Not credible on the topic without verification from another source.

 

[jimmypop]

Was Jan clean on the u23 Team?
Jan doped earlier in his life than Lance did.
Jan won the TdF on EPO earlier than Lance did.

back on topic....did Tyler work with Rudy over at rock racing?

I always read your name as "paw-lish", as in "I'm available at any time to polish Lance Armstrong's c0ck."

 

[LKing25]

For me i dont care who cracks 1st whether it be Hamilton, Kristin Armstrong, Zabriskie whoever i cannot wait to see the Armstrong fraud unraveled for good. For me the worst part about this years TDF was Lance crashing on the stage to Morzine as it robbed us fans of him being dropped like a bad habit on the last climb and shown to be the average cyclist he was before he went on the best doping regime in all of sports.

 

[buckwheat]

For me i dont care who cracks 1st whether it be Hamilton, Kristin Armstrong, Zabriskie whoever i cannot wait to see the Armstrong fraud unraveled for good. For me the worst part about this years TDF was Lance crashing on the stage to Morzine as it robbed us fans of him being dropped like a bad habit on the last climb and shown to be the average cyclist he was before he went on the best doping regime in all of sports.

I agree.

I did love this Herman nugget from the ABC link.

At USADA, Hannan said the agency considers all athletes "innocent until and unless proven otherwise through the established legal process. Attempts to sensationalize or exploit either the process or the athletes are a disservice to fair play, due process, and to those who love clean sport."

What an asshat!

 

[NashbarShorts]

the worst part about this years TDF was Lance crashing on the stage to Morzine as it robbed us of him being dropped like a bad habit on the last climb.

Yes, but at least we were able to witness the HELLISH sprint he uncorked at the end of his breakaway stage.

You remember -- the stage were he did all the work. (Read: none of the work). Quite a swansong for a man who said he wanted "no gifts".

 

[kurtinsc]

Yes, but at least we were able to witness that HELLISH sprint he uncorked later during his breakaway stage.

You remember, that stage were he did all the work. (Read: none of the work). It was quite a swansong for the man who said he wanted "no gifts".

To be fair... he did a large chunk of work earlier in the stage. At one point they had him as having done 27%.

But once he failed to drop people like Cunego on the climb... he did stop working. Understandable, because at that point his only shot in a sprint was the others killing themselves while he rested.

 

[buckwheat]

To be fair... he did a large chunk of work earlier in the stage. At one point they had him as having done 27%.

But once he failed to drop people like Cunego on the climb... he did stop working. Understandable, because at that point his only shot in a sprint was the others killing themselves while he rested.

Yeah, but it's all irrelevant because gear supported his whole house of cards career.

Who really gives a $hit? At this point we don't even know if he'd be more than a great weekend warrior. The guy has been jacked since he's been in triathlon for goodness sake.


Keep in mind, this is, "to be fair."

 

[Oldman]

Nothing in it for Tyler, oh wait. He and Flandis could destroy another Rihs cycling team ala Phonak. Oh happy happy joy joy. Destroy Pro Cycling guys.

You respond like these teams and their promoters, DS's are unfortunate and innocent collateral damage. Destroy Pro Cycling is the dismantlement of your version of pro cycling.