Moviestar said:He struggled a lot at the final part of the stage. But why would he drop time? In theory he could still cause some pressure at the rivals. Also don't forget the team classification is always important to them, and with Valverde as crucial third rider i don't think he will drop much time.Blanco said:I would really like to know what the hell is Valverde doing?!
He's not dropping time.
He's not going for the stage win.
He's not chasing for his "so called" leaders.
He's better placed than Birdsong, Bardet, Richie and Landa.tobydawq said:I think Valverde is the rider in the world with the worst ability to lose time on purpose. Not even today did he manage to do it![]()
Quintana doesnt seem to be able to capitalize jackshit. Remember, its the Tour, the race where Quintana is even more a shell of his former self.Amazinmets87 said:I'm expecting him and Landa to be sent up the road relatively early in an upcoming mountain stage. Ineos will burn doms chasing while Quintana sucks wheels and hopefully can capitalize.
I agree that Quintana has been a complete joker and underachiever for years. But, they've gotta try...Valv.Piti said:Quintana doesnt seem to be able to capitalize jackshit. Remember, its the Tour, the race where Quintana is even more a shell of his former self.Amazinmets87 said:I'm expecting him and Landa to be sent up the road relatively early in an upcoming mountain stage. Ineos will burn doms chasing while Quintana sucks wheels and hopefully can capitalize.
I would hope Movistar is smart enough to try a new tactic this year.Amazinmets87 said:I'm expecting him and Landa to be sent up the road relatively early in an upcoming mountain stage. Ineos will burn doms chasing while Quintana sucks wheels and hopefully can capitalize.
And what would you propose with the time deficit they have and upcoming TT? To sit and wait?Moviefan1203 said:I would hope Movistar is smart enough to try a new tactic this year.Amazinmets87 said:I'm expecting him and Landa to be sent up the road relatively early in an upcoming mountain stage. Ineos will burn doms chasing while Quintana sucks wheels and hopefully can capitalize.
Put Valverde on the front on the first climb of the day. Have him go full gas to shed the Ineos train. On the second climb have either Landa or Quintana swing for the fences.Blanco said:And what would you propose with the time deficit they haveMoviefan1203 said:I would hope Movistar is smart enough to try a new tactic this year.Amazinmets87 said:I'm expecting him and Landa to be sent up the road relatively early in an upcoming mountain stage. Ineos will burn doms chasing while Quintana sucks wheels and hopefully can capitalize.
and upcoming TT? To sit and wait?![]()
Fair enough. But Quintana won't go on the attack while being close to Thomas/Bernal. He'll only attack if he bleeds more time.Moviefan1203 said:Put Valverde on the front on the first climb of the day. Have him go full gas to shed the Ineos train. On the second climb have either Landa or Quintana swing for the fences.Blanco said:And what would you propose with the time deficit they haveMoviefan1203 said:I would hope Movistar is smart enough to try a new tactic this year.Amazinmets87 said:I'm expecting him and Landa to be sent up the road relatively early in an upcoming mountain stage. Ineos will burn doms chasing while Quintana sucks wheels and hopefully can capitalize.
and upcoming TT? To sit and wait?![]()
He'll be 3 minutes down when they'll hit the first mountain, enough to do something? But anyway Valverde can't shed the Ineos train.Blanco said:Fair enough. But Quintana won't go on the attack while being close to Thomas/Bernal. He'll only attack if he bleeds more time.Moviefan1203 said:Put Valverde on the front on the first climb of the day. Have him go full gas to shed the Ineos train. On the second climb have either Landa or Quintana swing for the fences.Blanco said:And what would you propose with the time deficit they haveMoviefan1203 said:I would hope Movistar is smart enough to try a new tactic this year.Amazinmets87 said:I'm expecting him and Landa to be sent up the road relatively early in an upcoming mountain stage. Ineos will burn doms chasing while Quintana sucks wheels and hopefully can capitalize.
and upcoming TT? To sit and wait?![]()
He has finished on the podium three times. Make a bold play for the win.Blanco said:Fair enough. But Quintana won't go on the attack while being close to Thomas/Bernal. He'll only attack if he bleeds more time.Moviefan1203 said:Put Valverde on the front on the first climb of the day. Have him go full gas to shed the Ineos train. On the second climb have either Landa or Quintana swing for the fences.Blanco said:And what would you propose with the time deficit they haveMoviefan1203 said:I would hope Movistar is smart enough to try a new tactic this year.Amazinmets87 said:I'm expecting him and Landa to be sent up the road relatively early in an upcoming mountain stage. Ineos will burn doms chasing while Quintana sucks wheels and hopefully can capitalize.
and upcoming TT? To sit and wait?![]()
tobydawq said:I think Valverde is the rider in the world with the worst ability to lose time on purpose. Not even today did he manage to do it![]()
It was a decent ride, but it's a bit weird as well. What's he trying to do exactly? Finish somewhere around 15th?Joomla10 said:Nice effort for great Alejandro today.
He's currently in 9th place and the 15th place rider is roughly 4 minutes in arrears.DFA123 said:It was a decent ride, but it's a bit weird as well. What's he trying to do exactly? Finish somewhere around 15th?Joomla10 said:Nice effort for great Alejandro today.
He's not saving himself enough to be an effective domestique or to stage hunt; but he's also not really challenging high in GC either.
Maybe just trying to get quality efforts in his legs ahead of the Vuelta I suppose.
Not sure of your point tbh. Valverde has said he's not riding for GC, he's already worked as a domestique in the race, but he's also not really saving energy or going for stage wins.Amazinmets87 said:He's currently in 9th place and the 15th place rider is roughly 4 minutes in arrears.DFA123 said:It was a decent ride, but it's a bit weird as well. What's he trying to do exactly? Finish somewhere around 15th?Joomla10 said:Nice effort for great Alejandro today.
He's not saving himself enough to be an effective domestique or to stage hunt; but he's also not really challenging high in GC either.
Maybe just trying to get quality efforts in his legs ahead of the Vuelta I suppose.
Dom for whom? He's the best placed rider on his team. Admittedly the remaining parcours favors Landa (forget Nairo) but Valverde has seniority and cache.
Valv.Piti said:Persoanlly I was very pleased with his effort. It was the first time in a long time I have seen him this good on a high mountain stage. I don't care that much about this race, but rather the Vuelta and he has shown he is not completely done yet. I believe in him for La Vuelta.
hrotha said:What is he doing at the Tour really? Not riding for the GC, but also not letting go and losing time, not trying to win stages, not really working for his teammates. Is he, the current world champion, riding primarily for the team classification?