Teams & Riders He's coming home!!!! Alejandro Valverde comeback thread.

[Fernandez]

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Contador has been after his ban a 75% of what he used to be, Valverde has returned after his ban at least at 100% of he used to be.

I don't think the Contador 2014 was 75% of the Contador 2010 and before.

Best Contador was Tour2009 and Giro2011, he destroyed everyone in these two races. He has never returned to that form.

My friend, 2014 was his best season ever.

For me there´s no comparison between Contador in Tour2009 and Giro2011, and Contador Vuelta2014. As I said, Contador was fearless in these two races, he just destroyed the field. In Vuelta 2014 he wins a non on top form Froome, and not in a brutal way.

 

[nobilis]

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Best rider at the moment. Would have catalunya too without bad luck.

Wouldn't say best rider. Just a strong climber with a strong sprint. Good combo for wins.

Are you *** out of your mind? Even have some discussion with arguments or don't pollute the thread with childish comments (of course i'm saying this in the friendliest of ways ).
Contador, like mentioned before, is just a one-trick pony. A climbing version of Kittel. Can Contador ever dream of winning liege, even once? Or any other 1-day race? You know, cycling is not just a race in July.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Are you **** out of your mind? Even have some discussion with arguments or don't pollute the thread with childish comments (of course i'm saying this in the friendliest of ways ).
Contador, like mentioned before, is just a one-trick pony. A climbing version of Kittel. Can Contador ever dream of winning liege, even once? Or any other 1-day race? You know, cycling is not just a race in July.

Friendly my ass. Nobs you know I respect you but this post shows your bad side. I won't get into a discussion about Piti with you.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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For me there´s no comparison between Contador in Tour2009 and Giro2011, and Contador Vuelta2014. As I said, Contador was fearless in these two races, he just destroyed the field. In Vuelta 2014 he wins a non on top form Froome, and not in a brutal way.

2014, was more than la Vuelta

 

[nobilis]

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Are you **** out of your mind? Even have some discussion with arguments or don't pollute the thread with childish comments (of course i'm saying this in the friendliest of ways ).
Contador, like mentioned before, is just a one-trick pony. A climbing version of Kittel. Can Contador ever dream of winning liege, even once? Or any other 1-day race? You know, cycling is not just a race in July.

Friendly my ass. Nobs you know I respect you but this post shows your bad side. I won't get into a discussion about Piti with you.

Well, the problem is that you always base your discussion around how awesome Contador is, even when the topic is not directly related to him and it shifts away the discussion.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Well, the problem is that you always base your discussion around how awesome Contador is, even when the topic is not directly related to him and it shifts away the discussion.

I didn't even mention Contador originally. People always think Contador is on my mind 24/7 but I can assure you that is not the case I voiced a different opinion and people exploded. And unlike you and BigMac, Valverde fans #1 and #2, I didn't personally attack those with a different opinion.

 

[nobilis]

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Well, the problem is that you always base your discussion around how awesome Contador is, even when the topic is not directly related to him and it shifts away the discussion.

I didn't even mention Contador originally. People always think Contador is on my mind 24/7 but I can assure you that is not the case I voiced a different opinion and people exploded. And unlike you and BigMac, Valverde fans #1 and #2, I didn't personally attack those with a different opinion.

Then you're the victim of the reputation that you built for yourself

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

respect

 

[jens_attacks]

grande bala!

cycling legend for me!

 

[Carols]

Wow the Ardennes; Bala wins 2 and places 2nd in the other. Yesterday was his birthday, nice present to yourself! He takes over as WT number 1 . 116 career wins, what a champ.

He has less than 100 career wins.

LOL that is what I get for believing Paul Sherwin and not checking. So how many?

 

[Carols]

Okay this thread has gotten Way Off Topic. This is the Bala thread folks, can we please return to him?

 

[SeriousSam]

"Best Spaniard of his generation" isn't off topic in the Valverde thread. It would be slightly off topic in the Purito and Contador threads, though.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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"Best Spaniard of his generation" isn't off topic in the Valverde thread. It would be slightly off topic in the Purito and Contador threads, though.

Funny guy eh

 

[Netserk]

Wow the Ardennes; Bala wins 2 and places 2nd in the other. Yesterday was his birthday, nice present to yourself! He takes over as WT number 1 . 116 career wins, what a champ.

He has less than 100 career wins.

LOL that is what I get for believing Paul Sherwin and not checking. So how many?

It's some time since I have counted, but I guess it's in the 80s.

edit: It's 90.

http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/rider_palm.asp?riderid=5&victories=1

Take away the Super Besse one and add the three that isn't shown from 2010.

 

[Mr.White]

Grande Bala! Greatest Ardennes classics rider since Moreno Argentin and Eddy Merckx!

 

[ILovecycling]

Nice pics, he really was happy! Congrats ,he was probably the strongest, in his age - impressive.

 

[IndianCyclist]

Really what happened to Bettini and Rebellin and Gilbert
For all you can argue about Contador being only GTs, Valverde himself has not crossed the Ardennes. No cobbles or MSR or Lombardia

 

[Jspear]

Now if he can just win the Vuelta and Lombardia that would be really cool!
Is he going to take a break anytime soon so he's ready for the later part of the season?

 

[GuyIncognito]

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Now if he can just win the Vuelta and Lombardia that would be really cool!
Is he going to take a break anytime soon so he's ready for the later part of the season?

His usual 1.5 month break from now to the Dauphiné

 

[Bushman]

How close was he to take the Ardennes triple? One of the greatest riders of his generation, surely.

 

[arvc40]

Super Rider............

 

[DFA123]

Just watched the highlights of the race back again; it really was the perfect performance by Valverde. I hope that his performances this week (and this season in generally) will stop his critics from saying he is poor tactically. The last km today and on wednesday were phenomenal performances; to win in such a controlled manner against a world class field. He knew exactly when to close the gap and when to sprint and didn't look close to blowing up at any time.

Also, regarding his tactics, he has an amazing ability throughout the race to stay in the top 5-10 riders in the peloton. It might mean he occasionally take a bit more of the wind than is absolutely necessary, but it's not coincidence that these days he very rarely gets caught up in a crash or caught on the wrong side of a split.

 

[hrotha]

I like to make fun of his tactical acumen or lack thereof, and seriously, he has enough blunders in his CV that this can't erase them all, but today he did race very well, tactically.

 

[DFA123]

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I like to make fun of his tactical acumen or lack thereof, and seriously, he has enough blunders in his CV that this can't erase them all, but today he did race very well, tactically.

Yeah, no doubt in the past he has made some awful tactical blunders, but I think he's improved a lot in the last year or so. In fact, probably since the 2013 WC debacle; after that he's been a bit more aggressive and has improved his podium-win ratio.

 

[Netserk]

It's not like he was especially challenged tactically these last two races.

It's says it all really when he after the race thinks it was very brave of him to close the gap to Moreno in the final even if it risked losing him the race. Other than that he was in his comfort zone the whole way. And the only reason I briefly thought Moreno had just a slight chance was because it was Valverde behind.