Your opinion, I guess.DBotero said:Come on,you should know by now there can't be two best Spanish riders,Valverde>Contador![]()
Your opinion, I guess.damian13ster said:Best rider of his generation. Strong climber, very good sprint, great endurance, insane peak for almost entire year. Tons of wins, always there at the business end of the race. Its not even close.
And dont care how big his ego gets. This is deserved
Okay, I gave you kudos in the Porte thread, but this is a bit too obvious. Try harder next time.SeriousSam said:1. Valverde
2. Purito
3. Freire/Contador.
For reasonable weights given to one day races and stage races. With greater weight given to one day races, Freire would move towards the top. With greater weight given to stage races, someone like Contador would have a good case.
It isn't comparable really.LaFlorecita said:Your opinion, I guess.DBotero said:Come on,you should know by now there can't be two best Spanish riders,Valverde>Contador![]()
Your opinion, I guess.damian13ster said:Best rider of his generation. Strong climber, very good sprint, great endurance, insane peak for almost entire year. Tons of wins, always there at the business end of the race. Its not even close.
And dont care how big his ego gets. This is deserved
I don't think the Contador 2014 was 75% of the Contador 2010 and before.Fernandez said:Contador has been after his ban a 75% of what he used to be, Valverde has returned after his ban at least at 100% of he used to be.
Yep, I agree. It also depends on how much you value podium places and the quality of wins. (PS - Freire should definitely get a mention).Arredondo said:It isn't comparable really.
The only thing you can say imo, is that Valverde is the best (hill)classics rider of his generation and Contador the best stage racer of his area.
Best Contador was Tour2009 and Giro2011, he destroyed everyone in these two races. He has never returned to that form.Arredondo said:I don't think the Contador 2014 was 75% of the Contador 2010 and before.Fernandez said:Contador has been after his ban a 75% of what he used to be, Valverde has returned after his ban at least at 100% of he used to be.
You're right, my guy will never achieve something like this. He won 6/8 GTs though, how many does your idol have?BigMac said:Florecita, get a grip. Tab out the thread, you should be questioning instead why your one trick pony, beloved Alberto, will never achieve something such as this.
My friend, 2014 was his best season ever.Fernandez said:Best Contador was Tour2009 and Giro2011, he destroyed everyone in these two races. He has never returned to that form.Arredondo said:I don't think the Contador 2014 was 75% of the Contador 2010 and before.Fernandez said:Contador has been after his ban a 75% of what he used to be, Valverde has returned after his ban at least at 100% of he used to be.
You say he wasn't at 75% of his old form in 2014.Fernandez said:Best Contador was Tour2009 and Giro2011, he destroyed everyone in these two races. He has never returned to that form.Arredondo said:I don't think the Contador 2014 was 75% of the Contador 2010 and before.Fernandez said:Contador has been after his ban a 75% of what he used to be, Valverde has returned after his ban at least at 100% of he used to be.
Typical. Girl, quantity =/= quality and variety. I will give him some credit the day he starts regularly winning or performing outside the mountains and stage races, otherwise he will just be some other Kittel.LaFlorecita said:You're right, my guy will never achieve something like this. He won 6/8 GTs though, how many does your idol have?BigMac said:Florecita, get a grip. Tab out the thread, you should be questioning instead why your one trick pony, beloved Alberto, will never achieve something such as this.Ha
Gent-Wevelgemroundabout said:When I think of Freire, I think of Worlds, Sanremo and Brabantse Pijl. I would really struggle to name any other 1-day race of note that he had won.
Strictly speaking, only his Worlds results would make him a better 1-day race than say someone like Zabel.
SureBigMac said:Typical. Girl, quantity =/= quality and variety. I will give him some credit the day he starts regularly winning or performing outside the mountains and stage races, otherwise he will just be some other Kittel.LaFlorecita said:You're right, my guy will never achieve something like this. He won 6/8 GTs though, how many does your idol have?BigMac said:Florecita, get a grip. Tab out the thread, you should be questioning instead why your one trick pony, beloved Alberto, will never achieve something such as this.Ha
Did you google that?Arredondo said:Gent-Wevelgemroundabout said:When I think of Freire, I think of Worlds, Sanremo and Brabantse Pijl. I would really struggle to name any other 1-day race of note that he had won.
Strictly speaking, only his Worlds results would make him a better 1-day race than say someone like Zabel.![]()
Paris-Tours as well.roundabout said:When I think of Freire, I think of Worlds, Sanremo and Brabantse Pijl. I would really struggle to name any other 1-day race of note that he had won.
Strictly speaking, only his Worlds results would make him a better 1-day racer than say someone like Zabel.
roundabout said:Did you google that?Arredondo said:Gent-Wevelgemroundabout said:When I think of Freire, I think of Worlds, Sanremo and Brabantse Pijl. I would really struggle to name any other 1-day race of note that he had won.
Strictly speaking, only his Worlds results would make him a better 1-day race than say someone like Zabel.![]()
He did win Paris-Tours late in his career, and something else (Hamburg?), but outside of the Worlds and Sanremo he wasn't that special for all the times he get's mentioned as one of the best 1-day racers.
People tend to associate Zabel with that green jersey,i always remember him for that and not for his 1 day wins.But there is really no contest,Freire was of different caliber.roundabout said:Which again brings us back to my point that it's only* the Worlds results that make Freire stand out, as Zabel actually has more major 1-day wins, yet hardly ever seems to get mentioned.
Are you one of those who finds it funny and cutesy to act as like infant?LaFlorecita said:SureBigMac said:Typical. Girl, quantity =/= quality and variety. I will give him some credit the day he starts regularly winning or performing outside the mountains and stage races, otherwise he will just be some other Kittel.LaFlorecita said:You're right, my guy will never achieve something like this. He won 6/8 GTs though, how many does your idol have?BigMac said:Florecita, get a grip. Tab out the thread, you should be questioning instead why your one trick pony, beloved Alberto, will never achieve something such as this.Ha
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I act my ageBigMac said:[
Are you one of those who finds it funny and cutesy to act as like infant?