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He is better than ever.
Top 3 in Dubai, Oman, Strade, Catalunya, Amstel and Flèche this year. Standing on the podium with Cavendish in one and Pozzovivo in another. Most versatile rider I can think of. Should try to go for a top 3 in Tour of Flanders next year.
Top 3 in Dubai, Oman, Strade, Catalunya, Amstel and Flèche this year. Standing on the podium with Cavendish in one and Pozzovivo in another. Most versatile rider I can think of. Should try to go for a top 3 in Tour of Flanders next year.
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After his suspension, he's more regular. That's for sure. But he did this kind of things too before 2010.
Velolover2 said:
After his suspension, he's more regular. That's for sure. But he did this kind of things too before 2010.
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I'm a Contador fan...and a Valverde fan. It's a joyous day for me. No complaints here.
DBotero said:
I'm a Contador fan...and a Valverde fan. It's a joyous day for me. No complaints here.
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Yes. We are talking of the Great Spanish Trio: Contador, Valverde and Purito. Contador is more of an european rider, he has always riden for foreigns teams, he tries to be more of a "cosmopolitan" rider. Purito is catalonian and lives in Andorra, he is the less spanish of the three. Valverde has riden always for spanish teams, he doesnt even speak other language, he has lived always in his Murcia, and if you listen him speaking he is from the very land of the country.
jaylew said:
Yes. We are talking of the Great Spanish Trio: Contador, Valverde and Purito. Contador is more of an european rider, he has always riden for foreigns teams, he tries to be more of a "cosmopolitan" rider. Purito is catalonian and lives in Andorra, he is the less spanish of the three. Valverde has riden always for spanish teams, he doesnt even speak other language, he has lived always in his Murcia, and if you listen him speaking he is from the very land of the country.
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You mean 8 ascents were faster in whole history, not just of the previous 11 ascents? This was not a slow pace by any means, only 12 sec from the record and with that penultimate climb
Netserk said:
You mean 8 ascents were faster in whole history, not just of the previous 11 ascents? This was not a slow pace by any means, only 12 sec from the record and with that penultimate climb
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Are you forgetting that Contador started out with Once/Liberty Seguros? I see your point though. Even going further, you had Freire starting his career with a Spanish team but spending the rest with Rabobank due in large part to his sprint/classic ambitions, Flecha at Fassa Bortolo (Italian), Rabobank and finally Sky due to his cobbled classic ambitions. Let's not forget Sammy Sanchez's entire career at Euskatel Euskadi until this season (BMC).
Fernandez said:
Are you forgetting that Contador started out with Once/Liberty Seguros? I see your point though. Even going further, you had Freire starting his career with a Spanish team but spending the rest with Rabobank due in large part to his sprint/classic ambitions, Flecha at Fassa Bortolo (Italian), Rabobank and finally Sky due to his cobbled classic ambitions. Let's not forget Sammy Sanchez's entire career at Euskatel Euskadi until this season (BMC).
DBotero said:
Not every Contador fan, I love Berto, but I can respect Valverde even sometimes I laughed at him too. Today I couldn't help thinking of that Imbatido tag and noone deserved it better with this kind of win.
At one point today I even thought he gave his opponent too much respect (well, but that's him, right...), because once we hit the Muur today, it looked like he would've won any possible way he liked, maybe next year he'll realize it's easier than he thought and attack the final for the record
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Euskatel was the Basque Country team. Lot of people in Spain we didnt recognize Euskatel as a spanish team.
Angliru said:
Euskatel was the Basque Country team. Lot of people in Spain we didnt recognize Euskatel as a spanish team.
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Angliru, after what Fernandez said about Purito, how could you bring a rider who rode for a Basque team into the conversation?
Angliru said:
Angliru, after what Fernandez said about Purito, how could you bring a rider who rode for a Basque team into the conversation?
Head and shoulders above everybody today. It looked so easy. Certainly a five star favorite for LBL.
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...because I favor Spanish and Basque rider's equally even though in some of their minds they are separate nationalities. I ride an Orbea and since my first viewing of the sport Pedro Delgado was the first rider that I truly rooted for and I've been in my heart a supporter of the Spanish and Basque riders, especially the climbers, over all others. Pantani and Simoni were the only non-Iberian Peninsula riders that I would consider suppporting over the riders that initially drew me to the sport. My horizons have broadened since then but still my heart is with the Spanish and Basque riders and to a lesser degree the Colombian's. The bias in my opinions is often leaning in their favor.
gunara said:Angliru said:
Angliru, after what Fernandez said about Purito, how could you bring a rider who rode for a Basque team into the conversation?
...because I favor Spanish and Basque rider's equally even though in some of their minds they are separate nationalities. I ride an Orbea and since my first viewing of the sport Pedro Delgado was the first rider that I truly rooted for and I've been in my heart a supporter of the Spanish and Basque riders, especially the climbers, over all others. Pantani and Simoni were the only non-Iberian Peninsula riders that I would consider suppporting over the riders that initially drew me to the sport. My horizons have broadened since then but still my heart is with the Spanish and Basque riders and to a lesser degree the Colombian's. The bias in my opinions is often leaning in their favor.
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Not from me. I 'love to hate' Piti. He's my guilty secret. Delighted he won.
DBotero said:
Not from me. I 'love to hate' Piti. He's my guilty secret. Delighted he won.
Classic Valverde
Wish he had done just a little more to maybe avoid the sprint at AGR and won it
Valverde is one i believe never really achieved his true potential even though he has done a lot
Wish he had done just a little more to maybe avoid the sprint at AGR and won it
Valverde is one i believe never really achieved his true potential even though he has done a lot
Angliru said:gunara said:Angliru said:
Angliru, after what Fernandez said about Purito, how could you bring a rider who rode for a Basque team into the conversation?
...because I favor Spanish and Basque rider's equally even though in some of their minds they are separate nationalities. I ride an Orbea and since my first viewing of the sport Pedro Delgado was the first rider that I truly rooted for and I've been in my heart a supporter of the Spanish and Basque riders, especially the climbers, over all others. Pantani and Simoni were the only non-Iberian Peninsula riders that I would consider suppporting over the riders that initially drew me to the sport. My horizons have broadened since then but still my heart is with the Spanish and Basque riders and to a lesser degree the Colombian's. The bias in my opinions is often leaning in their favor.
I see. It's just that seeing Fernandez' inevitable reply made me smile.
Me drawn to the sport by the Basques myself and later also support Freire, Contador etc., maybe subconsciously give Iberians bonus starting point before deciding whether I like a rider or not, never automatic choices, but unfair advantage there.
EDIT : editing, quoting, and editing quotes are a lot of pain these days.
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If Valverde wins LBL on sunday, it will be his best spring classics campaign ever. Since 2013, despite not winning a monument, he has been stronger than ever.Arredondo said:
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