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Contador was fifth. I will see what valverde does... he won't even make top10, mark my wordsValv.Piti said:Day by day he is proving to be the best rider of his generation
Look how hard Contador struggled in 2015 and his absolute peak in 2011. Seriously. I had never imagined in my wildest dreams he would be this good after the Ardennes and the Giro. Even Purito in his prime would have struggled being this consistent and Valverde is 36. LAMO.
portugal11 said:Contador was fifth. I will see what valverde does... he won't even make top10, mark my wordsValv.Piti said:Day by day he is proving to be the best rider of his generation
Look how hard Contador struggled in 2015 and his absolute peak in 2011. Seriously. I had never imagined in my wildest dreams he would be this good after the Ardennes and the Giro. Even Purito in his prime would have struggled being this consistent and Valverde is 36. LAMO.
Whole team? Yes but a terrible team, tinkoff is worse than movistat by miles. Contador was always alone in the moutains.Valv.Piti said:portugal11 said:Contador was fifth. I will see what valverde does... he won't even make top10, mark my wordsValv.Piti said:Day by day he is proving to be the best rider of his generation
Look how hard Contador struggled in 2015 and his absolute peak in 2011. Seriously. I had never imagined in my wildest dreams he would be this good after the Ardennes and the Giro. Even Purito in his prime would have struggled being this consistent and Valverde is 36. LAMO.
As has been noted, Contador had his whole team devoted to him both years. Valverde, not so much. More consistent, but lacks the level that Contador sometimes can show in the mountains
DId you watch the 2013 and 2015 Tour? I very much doubt it. Seriously. It wasn't a matter of team, but being very mediocre.portugal11 said:Whole team? Yes but a terrible team, tinkoff is worse than movistat by miles. Contador was always alone in the moutains.Valv.Piti said:portugal11 said:Contador was fifth. I will see what valverde does... he won't even make top10, mark my wordsValv.Piti said:Day by day he is proving to be the best rider of his generation
Look how hard Contador struggled in 2015 and his absolute peak in 2011. Seriously. I had never imagined in my wildest dreams he would be this good after the Ardennes and the Giro. Even Purito in his prime would have struggled being this consistent and Valverde is 36. LAMO.
As has been noted, Contador had his whole team devoted to him both years. Valverde, not so much. More consistent, but lacks the level that Contador sometimes can show in the mountains
Moviestar said:Very clever before the start: I will lose some time on purpose in the flat stages. And now almost 2 weeks further he is practical in the same time as his leader. It's absolutely not in his nature to lose time on purpose, the guy always wants to compete with the best. To ride a GT without ambitions/pressure is impossible.
Valv.Piti said:Moviestar said:Very clever before the start: I will lose some time on purpose in the flat stages. And now almost 2 weeks further he is practical in the same time as his leader. It's absolutely not in his nature to lose time on purpose, the guy always wants to compete with the best. To ride a GT without ambitions/pressure is impossible.
Yup. Gotta enjoy him while it lasts. Isn't given enough credit, at all.
What?? Majka only cares about himself. And i was only talking about 2015. In 2013, contador had a great teamValv.Piti said:DId you watch the 2013 and 2015 Tour? I very much doubt it. Seriously. It wasn't a matter of team, but being very mediocre.portugal11 said:Whole team? Yes but a terrible team, tinkoff is worse than movistat by miles. Contador was always alone in the moutains.Valv.Piti said:portugal11 said:Contador was fifth. I will see what valverde does... he won't even make top10, mark my wordsValv.Piti said:Day by day he is proving to be the best rider of his generation
Look how hard Contador struggled in 2015 and his absolute peak in 2011. Seriously. I had never imagined in my wildest dreams he would be this good after the Ardennes and the Giro. Even Purito in his prime would have struggled being this consistent and Valverde is 36. LAMO.
As has been noted, Contador had his whole team devoted to him both years. Valverde, not so much. More consistent, but lacks the level that Contador sometimes can show in the mountains
Kreuziger was better than him in 2013 and Majka was very decent in 2015.
Valv.Piti said:Indeed. Many people won't appreciate the loads of top-3, top-5 and top-10s. It doesnt matter what race, this man just shows up. Ill never forget him, the Chicken, Armstrong and Mancebo on Courchevel, my best memory by far.
Was that this day? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzeS8JUPh2wValv.Piti said:Indeed. Many people won't appreciate the loads of top-3, top-5 and top-10s. It doesnt matter what race, this man just shows up. Ill never forget him, the Chicken, Armstrong and Mancebo on Courchevel, my best memory by far.
joe_papp said:Was that this day? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzeS8JUPh2wValv.Piti said:Indeed. Many people won't appreciate the loads of top-3, top-5 and top-10s. It doesnt matter what race, this man just shows up. Ill never forget him, the Chicken, Armstrong and Mancebo on Courchevel, my best memory by far.
Sorry, I know I could watch it and try to figure it out, but want to confirm in advance lol
And still people whill whine because of his lack of GT victories or rainbow jersey.Valv.Piti said:Day by day he is proving to be the best rider of his generation
Look how hard Contador struggled in 2015 and his absolute peak in 2011. Seriously. I had never imagined in my wildest dreams he would be this good after the Ardennes and the Giro. Even Purito in his prime would have struggled being this consistent and Valverde is 36. LAMO.
Valv.Piti said:joe_papp said:Was that this day? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzeS8JUPh2wValv.Piti said:Indeed. Many people won't appreciate the loads of top-3, top-5 and top-10s. It doesnt matter what race, this man just shows up. Ill never forget him, the Chicken, Armstrong and Mancebo on Courchevel, my best memory by far.
Sorry, I know I could watch it and try to figure it out, but want to confirm in advance lol
Yes. Armstrong said he was the next big thing after that performance. Crashes and inconsistency ever since, he has not really showed the top notch climbing after that performance in TdF.
Valv.Piti said:Indeed. Many people won't appreciate the loads of top-3, top-5 and top-10s. It doesnt matter what race, this man just shows up. Ill never forget him, the Chicken, Armstrong and Mancebo on Courchevel, my best memory by far.
Moviestar said:Valv.Piti said:Indeed. Many people won't appreciate the loads of top-3, top-5 and top-10s. It doesnt matter what race, this man just shows up. Ill never forget him, the Chicken, Armstrong and Mancebo on Courchevel, my best memory by far.
I found La Pandera (Vuelta 06) more exciting, with a Vino completely exploding and Valverde as a lightning strike to the victory.
Valv.Piti said:Day by day he is proving to be the best rider of his generation
Look how hard Contador struggled in 2015 and his absolute peak in 2011. Seriously. I had never imagined in my wildest dreams he would be this good after the Ardennes and the Giro. Even Purito in his prime would have struggled being this consistent and Valverde is 36. LAMO.
roundabout said:Moviestar said:Valv.Piti said:Indeed. Many people won't appreciate the loads of top-3, top-5 and top-10s. It doesnt matter what race, this man just shows up. Ill never forget him, the Chicken, Armstrong and Mancebo on Courchevel, my best memory by far.
I found La Pandera (Vuelta 06) more exciting, with a Vino completely exploding and Valverde as a lightning strike to the victory.
wrong year, 2003 perhaps
in 2006 Vinokourov and Kashechkin rode away unchallenged