Whose better between Froome and Contador on such descents? I can't recall seeing Froome in a significant solo descent.rantanplan said:The descent is really tecnical... I think that Valverde and even Purito are going to do a good ITT.
Contador can descend really good if he has to. Look at paris-nice 07 or tour '11.eleven said:Whose better between Froome and Contador on such descents? I can't recall seeing Froome in a significant solo descent.
At any rate, my prediction: Contador will pip Froome by a handful of seconds. Call it 15.
Evans put two and a half minutes into Schleck last year in the Tour. Wiggins would have annihilated Schleck in this year's Tour so by that standard Froome looks pretty good. Contador would not even get close to Wiggins at the moment. Fatigue will cost Froome some time but he can still beat Contador I think. Been a while since Contador has ridden such a TT, as well. Comparing the old Wiggins to the new is like comparing the old Menchov to the new. There is no comparison.sultanofhyd said:I don't know why people in this forum seem to think Froome is the next Indurain and Contador forgot how to TT. All this year and some of the last Froome got beaten by Wiggins, who was beaten multiple in times in various TTs by Contador before the ban.
And in his last two important TTs, both absolutely flat ones, Contador finished 3rd, in Giro he already had over 6 minutes and the Tour was the worst ever for him in the mountains. Not to forget Martin was as invincible in TTs last year as Wiggins this year.
I bang my head against the wall whenever people talk about Froome putting minutes into Contador in any kind of TT, hell, even Schleck never lost that much.
Even in a pancake flat TT there won't be more than 10 seconds between the two.
Goes to show that this is a very unpredictable TT, due to true form levels still being an unknown.Miburo said:Contador is now winning in the polls, at one point Froome was in the lead by 10 orso.
ROTFL...I'm American and the TOC and USPCC are so far out of the league of the Vuelta it is laughable!!The Hitch said:Big mcquaid fan. Wants.toc and uspcc to replace the giro.and vuelta so just spams giro and vuelta threads none stop to.comment that no one cared and the racing sucks.
Ignore it.
Pointless comparison. Wiggins this year is not the same as earlier. He was clearly the best TTer in the world this year, better than Martin and Cancellara even. And Froome was close behind. That's why he's "the next Indurain". His form may be questionable though.sultanofhyd said:I don't know why people in this forum seem to think Froome is the next Indurain and Contador forgot how to TT. All this year and some of the last Froome got beaten by Wiggins, who was beaten multiple in times in various TTs by Contador before the ban.
Like you? LOLairstream said:people do not want to have a new hierarchy. the easiest way is to close the eyes and not to look up to froome. the forum keeps sinking.. for those who prefer unbiased coverage,at least.
Lol there you are again with your "new hierarchy".airstream said:people do not want to have a new hierarchy. the easiest way is to close the eyes and not to look up to froome. the forum keeps sinking.. for those who prefer unbiased coverage,at least.
Do u see the ironi in that?airstream said:people do not want to have a new hierarchy. the easiest way is to close the eyes and not to look up to froome. the forum keeps sinking.. for those who prefer unbiased coverage,at least.
It's a disgrace to compare him with Indurain. I know why people say it and I can get it but still it's a disgracespalco said:That's why he's "the next Indurain". His form may be questionable though.
no, neither irony nor humor. I just see people vote for 'who would you like to be better'Cimber said:Do u see the ironi in that?
For the record I votes Froome, but think margin will be small
I guess it's stupid to vote on a guy who beated Canc in a TT and absolutely dominated the TT's in the pais basque. And on a bad shape, not really motivated was 3th in tour'11 TT behind evans/martin who were 100% and really motivated.airstream said:no, neither irony nor humor. I just see people vote for 'who would you like to be better'![]()
airstream said:people do not want to have a new hierarchy. the easiest way is to close the eyes and not to look up to froome. the forum keeps sinking.. for those who prefer unbiased coverage,at least.
That's up to them, but after a day I decided to vote for Contador. Yes I want him to win, but I also think he will beat Froome wednesday.airstream said:no, neither irony nor humor. I just see people vote for 'who would you like to be better'![]()
I just followed up on the analogy of the comment I quoted, I didn't mean it literally.Miburo said:It's a disgrace to compare him with Indurain. I know why people say it and I can get it but still it's a disgrace
Indurain won against the best in the world unlike him, has more class in his left toe than him.
Did I already mention that Indurain won against the best of his time?![]()
yeah I figured so, my comment was meant in general.spalco said:I just followed up on the analogy of the comment I quoted, I didn't mean it literally.
I told you Airstream has at least 200 posts about 'Fear of the Future' and us being in denial.Kwibus said:
Everybody in this forum is biased...its impossible to be unbiased when you watch cycling some timeairstream said:damn, lol, once again Contador fans call an about 95% preparedness a bad shape. He was in great shape in the last weak of the 2011 Tour. But sometimes even good shape does not guarantee absence of crisis moments. Contador was in bad form in criterium internacional 2010 (or 2009?). if one tries to reason like you it comes that badly a halfway prepared contador will easily podium in any gt which is an absolute myth. you, fans, really built a fairytale you wanna live in. i don't relally care who will win the race, so i try to look at all the things unbiasedly. but really hilarious how any comparisons and analogies are distorted and handled against froome
in case froome takes a minute in tt, i expect to read "gah...alberto is not prepared at even a quarter compared to he could"
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