Hincapie confession?

[Cloxxki]

Pretty sad that he brought upon his own demise huh?

Not sure yet what makes Levi worse than Hincapie. Maybe a worse negotiator?

And I'm so wondering about Livingston (his wife in his 1999 TdF home video made Olivia Newton John look like wallpaper) and Horner. Is their silenced being rewarded compared to the deals Levi and Hincapie got? Or as a kind of Lance employee did he luck out for other reasons? He's had enough luck for a man's life with that wife of his. I say take back prizes 1999 onwards.

 

[orangerider]

Why does Hincapie get to retain his alpe d'huez title? That should be stripped, at minimum.

 

[TubularBills]

Pretty sad that he brought upon his own demise huh?

RE: NYT Leipheimer Link, available via arrow in above quote or previous:

But he has earned my respect in having the courage to come clean.

He can now at least celebrate that he did the right thing.

Granted he was caught and didn't have a choice...

But he appears genuine and quite eloquent in the final paragraphs.

Demise. I don't think so. The best outcome of this sad, sad day is that we received a slew of additional champions for clean sport.

With one notable exception.

I am sure many in the forum expected this, but none of us could predict how somber the revealing of the scourge would actually be.

I thought I would be celebrating this day and instead I find myself somber, reflective and sad at the loss of an entire era.

A sad (but necessary) day for the sport.

I choose to support the future and welcome additional champions...

and celebrate their coming clean,

TB

Let's hope Clean is the new Edgar.

Cheers to the future of a sport I love.

 

[Escarabajo]

Yes, perfectly timed retirement and statement, so much respect for him. NOT.

PS: Is there a way to ban this guy from cycling forever?

???

What else did you expect him to say.

And be careful of the guys that you are cheering for.

 

[cineteq]

???

What else did you expect him to say.

Did you read Zabriskie's affidavit? Btw, what do you think about it?

 

[thehog]

Did you read Zabriskie's affidavit? Btw, what do you think?

CSC? #cough

 

[cineteq]

CSC? #cough

better effort than hincapie's though.

 

[TubularBills]

???

What else did you expect him to say.

And be careful of the guys that you are cheering for.

Don't really know the reason for the backlash/blowback?

But I would expect plenty of associated repercussions.

Anybody could fall is my takeaway.

Burn the last 10 to 15 years.

All implicated, no virgins.

 

[The Gnome]

Why does Hincapie get to retain his alpe d'huez title? That should be stripped, at minimum.

Hincapie never won on the Alpe...perhaps you have Pla d'Adet in mind?

 

[Love the Scenery]

Did Oscar Pereiro just get his stage win over George Hincapie?

Edit: Just looked in more detail. Yes, Hincapie stripped of 2004-2006 results. Stage win was in 2005. I wonder if they will vacate the stage or give it to Pereiro. Big George did some pretty unapologetic wheel sucking that day, Pereiro was mightily upset.

 

[BroDeal]

Did Oscar Pereiro just get his stage win over George Hincapie?

Edit: Just looked in more detail. Yes, Hincapie stripped of 2004-2006 results. Stage win was in 2005. I wonder if they will vacate the stage or give it to Pereiro. Big George did some pretty unapologetic wheel sucking that day, Pereiro was mightily upset.

That was roid rage.

 

[Love the Scenery]

That was roid rage.

Hahhah, I don't doubt it. I hope they just vacate all these wins, instead of giving them to the second place rider. Pereiro will have to be content with his secondhand overall.

 

[rhubroma]

Hincapie is such a weasel and a hypocrite. By all accounts he was one of the most zealous supporters of the Armstrong "system" at US Postal, though now claims he quit doping in 2006 and wants to stay in the sport to help the next generation (and save his cycling wear clothing line)!

 

[cineteq]

Hincapie is such a weasel and a hypocrite. By all accounts he was one of the most zealous supporters of the Armstrong "system" at US Postal, though now claims he quit doping in 2006 and wants to stay in the sport to help the next generation (and save his cycling wear clothing line)!

One wonders if he was LA's right hand through all these years. I don't think we've seen the end of the story on Big George.

 

[RichWalk]

of the affidavits I've read so far Georges leaves me feeling uncomfortable, his comments post 2006 are almost dismissive and dont't offer much encouragement ; so no one at all has been busted since then, right

 

[movingtarget]

Hincapie is such a weasel and a hypocrite. By all accounts he was one of the most zealous supporters of the Armstrong "system" at US Postal, though now claims he quit doping in 2006 and wants to stay in the sport to help the next generation (and save his cycling wear clothing line)!

Yes I agree. That paragon of sport and a great guy. None of these guys come out of it looking good. It's easy to speak out when you are painted into a corner and offered a deal when your career is almost over. No one implicated in this mess is coming out smelling of roses. Such hypocrites. Such courage. What a joke.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Hincapie never won on the Alpe...perhaps you have Pla d'Adet in mind?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmkVSp4vBUA

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Did Oscar Pereiro just get his stage win over George Hincapie?

Edit: Just looked in more detail. Yes, Hincapie stripped of 2004-2006 results. Stage win was in 2005. I wonder if they will vacate the stage or give it to Pereiro. Big George did some pretty unapologetic wheel sucking that day, Pereiro was mightily upset.

here's a video of Big G winning http://youtu.be/cmkVSp4vBUA

wistful expression on winning

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

In Hincapie's deposition, he refers to a "B-12" injection from Angus Fraser. Bullshlt. Angus Fraser was hired by a young Canadian cyclist in 1988 to help him at an attempt for the track hour record. Within 2 months, the kid was transformed from a skinnyish track rider into a bulging mesomorph. At least 5-6 kg added to a 65 kg frame. When they came looking for support and equipment and we saw what he did to that kid, we wanted to throw his *** on the street. Long story short. No b-12 here, as b-12 was the name for anything and everything that came out of his needles. Assh0le.

 

[KayLow]

Hincapie is such a weasel and a hypocrite. By all accounts he was one of the most zealous supporters of the Armstrong "system" at US Postal, though now claims he quit doping in 2006 and wants to stay in the sport to help the next generation (and save his cycling wear clothing line)!

The cure for those starting to feel sympathetic towards the doping liars that rode beside Armstrong is to look back at history. Hincapie was sitting to Armstrong's right when Armstrong told Paul Kimmage that he wasn't worth the chair he was sitting on. Big George was not so big on that day.

Hincapie is singing a different tune now to save his ***. Any sympathy that a person feels for him that he does not also feel for Armstrong is based on misleading impressions of Hincapie's personality. The good guy routine is just one more masking agent used to cover up his crimes. These guys would have killed their mothers to ride faster. As it was, they were willing to do mortal harm to their reputations, if not their bodies, in pursuit of The Dream. It is understandable, but it doesn't change the fact that their major life's work was a complete and total fraud.

 

[Love the Scenery]

here's a video of Big G winning http://youtu.be/cmkVSp4vBUA

wistful expression on winning

Wow, VERY bad memories. There go Oscar Sevilla, Armstrong, Ullrich, Rasmussen, Vinokourov, Hincapie, Basso ... doper after doper after doper, all busily engaged in lying, cheating, and defrauding. And Phil Liggett cheering it on. Sometimes we forget how very, very bad things were as recently as 2005.

 

[frenchfry]

For now I am of the opinion that Hincapie is a run of the mill serial doper that has profited a max from the Armstrong system and shows no apparent remorse with his half baked "confession". He as done nothing to promote clean cycling, so to suggest otherwise is PR blah blah.

 

[Epicycle]

Did Oscar Pereiro just get his stage win over George Hincapie?

Edit: Just looked in more detail. Yes, Hincapie stripped of 2004-2006 results. Stage win was in 2005. I wonder if they will vacate the stage or give it to Pereiro. Big George did some pretty unapologetic wheel sucking that day, Pereiro was mightily upset.

George wasn't wheelsucking. He explained after Pereiro complained - he couldn't come around Oscar earlier because the crowd was in the way.

 

[kurtinsc]

I view Hincappie similar to how I view Indurain. Nice guy personalities, but doped to the gills.

Of course Indurain had a LOT more talent to begin with, but people tend to want to let nice guys get away with it more.

It's why Contador is more sympathetic as well, while Wiggins is much less so.

 

[Cloxxki]

USADA can easily find reason to retest some sample for George, or look again at blood values, can't they? Would not be cool of George to be found lying here. He got off way too lightly.