Hincapie's book

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Jun 15, 2009
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Benotti69 said:
Tyler was honest. I dont expect the rest of the ex USPS/Disco to be.

speaking of ex USPS and truth, O'Reilly's book is due for release soon too...
 
Feb 10, 2010
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SundayRider said:
It was Tyler's book that really lifted the lid on that era wasn't it. The definitive guide to the era so to speak.

Most likely, a book that covers the same era will be sold to the many doping faithful and that's it. But, there's quite a few of them, so his North Korean propaganda might go over pretty good.
 

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Now, a Hincapie book is one that I will not buy. Never going to put money in that guys pocket.

Landis? Can't make my mind up about him. Doper, liar, eventual truth teller but only when he realised he couldn't get anything more out of the situation except revenge. Now stands to make zillions.

But he's kind of cool though.
 
Aug 29, 2012
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86TDFWinner said:
You can't make this stuff up, you gotta love George. Have any of you seen this(apologies if it's been posted already)? I did get a hearty chuckle out of this. Disingenuous George now claims "Wonderboy isn't to blame for doping culture", Anything to sell books, eh Georgey:



http://www.examiner.com/article/lance-armstrong-says-he-is-still-a-seven-time-tour-de-france-winner

Hincape's book should be titled, The Loyal Sucktard. He's Armstrong's personal toolkit, I tell ya. So... they were mere victims of a "messy" time. Yeah right. Oh, and it ain't fair to blame Lance for 100 years of doping in cycling. Uhh, who ever blamed him for that? When straw meets man.
 
Aug 9, 2010
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bosco10 said:
hincape's book should be titled, the loyal sucktard. He's armstrong's personal toolkit, i tell ya. So... They were mere victims of a "messy" time. Yeah right. Oh, and it ain't fair to blame lance for 100 years of doping in cycling. Uhh, who ever blamed him for that? When straw meets man.

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Oct 16, 2012
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elizab said:
The legal people here can chime in. When we gave our depositions, our lawyer advised us to only say what we knew for certain as far as PED products and lance went. This is what did not register with Juliet. Frankie knew lance was using peds but didn't see him use, wasn't told by him that he used, etc. So beating the dead horse here, had Frankie said he knew lance was using peds based on nothing more than lance whining about their asses getting kicked, that wouldn't have held up in court.

Anyway, about this book. Pretty interesting this excerpt was chosen from the entire book to hit the AP. Yeah, Frankie said it would've left a monumental effect on George because Frankie was adamantly against the doping. He never knowingly or unknowingly doped from anyone on the team (pre Postal) e.g. Hendershot. His first time with a PED was on his own. But since George and Lance are using the same PR sheet, the target was to take jabs at Frankie and Travis. Too bad there was no indelible mark (fyi, indelible means memorable or lasting mark, George) on Junkie George when Frankie said no more to epo as well as refusing to getting on the program transfusing blood and popping pills.

George wants to portray himself as Mr. Nice Guy but when not in public he had no problem lambasting us for not going along with the armstrong lie.

Thanks for the info
 
Dec 7, 2010
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Race Radio said:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ishes-world-doping-new-book-article-1.1796470

George says his wife helped him avoid dope testers and he begged Floyd to stop doping......oh, and of course he did not use PED's until he saw it in Frankie's fridge.

But it plainly states that, "He pressed Andreu for details..."
So what is the narrative now? Poor George was corrupted by Evil Frankie, or that the Big Man had an unquenchable thirst for PEDs and he squeezed Frankie for all that he could to satisfy those desires?

I'll choose Door #2.
 
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I also love the credibility given to the anti-doping agencies in all of this.

The elaborate methods necessary to beat the system?
Simply tell them to f'ck off when they show up at your door.
...recounts the knock on the door answered by his wife during training in Girona, Spain, before the [TdF]. Testers from the United States Anti-Doping Agency arrived the morning after Hincapie injected himself with 1,000 units of performance-enhancing EPO the night before, according to the book.

Alerted by his spouse while getting a massage, Hincapie immediately dialed team doctor Pedro Celaya, who advised that taking the test was too risky, the cyclist wrote. Hincapie quickly told his wife to first ask the inspectors to return in an hour, then rent a car and meet him at the train station, he says in the book. The biker, his wife and their child skipped town, allowing Hincapie to avoid the doping finish line.


Even what would otherwise be considered a "bad" thing, is meant to convey some sort of hero status.
The cyclist, who became the key witness in the case that brought Armstrong to ruin...
Sorry, George, but you don't even win at that. Armstrong would've fallen with or without the only guy left on the planet who's not embarrassed to label himself as "loyal" to one of the most reviled American athletes of our time.

Oh sure, some of the Velonews subscribers may have held out hope without Big George's testimony, but it would not have made one bit of difference, given the MOUNTAIN of evidence against Lance & Co., in the final outcome.

Hincapie was the pivotal witness in the USADA case...
M'kay. Try harder next time. :rolleyes:
 
Aug 13, 2009
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If George is looking for redemption this book will not get it for him. It starts with an intro written by Armstrong with the same "Everyone was doing it" nonsense and ends with some shots at Travis and lots of "I worked really hard"

Basically an attempt to rationalize his decision.....yeah, folks are going to love that
 
Aug 30, 2012
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Quit the junk in 2006. Sure you did, George. Such a tragedy that the pious George couldn't get that filthy Landis to right himself for the betterment of all.:rolleyes:

God almighty I'm trying to come up with something cogent, but there are levels of rationalization that are so ridiculous that they can't even be comprehended. It's no wonder that every time we run into each other, George, that all you're able to do is chew your own tongue and stare blankly into space.

Oh wait, you're like that all the time.
 
Aug 11, 2012
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Race Radio said:
If George is looking for redemption this book will not get it for him. It starts with an intro written by Armstrong with the same "Everyone was doing it" nonsense and ends with some shots at Travis and lots of "I worked really hard"

Basically an attempt to rationalize his decision.....yeah, folks are going to love that

Yep, I for one have zero interest in reading it, unless it's for comedic value/content(which we all know, the book is full of)
 
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2006 was his best year ever in terms of cq-points
And he stopped doping early in the year?
George isn't even trying to come up with a story that makes sense ...
 
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frenchfry said:
Tyler was smart, his book was first and it was a pretty good one at that.

George is too late to the party, and I really can't imagine that such a half-faced liar and confirmed omerta lover has anything interesting to say. I would imagine his "book" will flop, as it should.

Agreed. Maybe you can stay at his new South Carolina B&B and get your copy signed!


RobbieCanuck said:
Bang on. What GH cannot seem to understand is that his case was one of the most egregious examples of doping due to the calculated and deliberate manner in which LA, GH and the others decided their teams would have to dope and the sophisticated nature of the scheme, in turn justifying the lifetime ban for LA. I suspect in retrospect USADA wishes it had handled GH's suspension differently, but perhaps they had no choice.


Ok, I think we can get over the double standard already. We know Postal/Hincapie/Tyler and the crew were doping. USADA really had no choice but to give those guys deals to land the big fish Lance to make an example out of. This is where Tygart loses respect and credibility IMO. He still wouldn't say if Lance did cooperate, would he have only got a 6-8 month suspension like the others. (That means, NO, we are going to roast him to pump our own egos up and try to make an example.)

But really?!?! Pantini day at the Giro?!?! WTF double standard Euros...Mr. 60% hemotacrit....give me a f*&king break people.

If there is really one, and pretty much only one thing I agree with LA & Company on is, they were pretty much all doping, most teams. Yet LA took a big hit/fall for others. Besides Festina and Operacion Puerto, which nobody was made out to be Lucifer like LA and Postal, who else was made the poster child of the doping era??? Nobody else was on Oprah doing a two-day interview about doping during this time in cycling?

Side bar, pretty sad how NBC had CVV doing side-by-side commentary with Paul during the TOC. Just shows the dichotomy of media, general public, and USAC in general as it relates to cycling/doping.

Sadly, somebody is going to have to read this book to determine if there is anything new. That is where some of the journalist can come in and read/review it, and makes some references whether it is really worth buying. Doubtful it is though.
 
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zigmeister said:
Besides Festina and Operacion Puerto, which nobody was made out to be Lucifer like LA and Postal, who else was made the poster child of the doping era??? Nobody else was on Oprah doing a two-day interview about doping during this time in cycling?

I assume you are joking.

Cycling has plenty of doping poster children. Germany crucified Ullrich and Telekom. Cofidis, Rabobank, Landis, Mayo, Heras, etc, etc.

Wonderboy was the biggest star so he got lots of attention in the US but he was hardly singled out......but I can see how some fanboys might perceive it this way if they only followed one rider
 

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