How do Lowlanders learn to climb? (Official Mollema/Ten Dam/Belkin thread)

[gazr99]

If people are going to call Froome's attack alien, what does it say about Mollema attacking from the group behind, catching Froome and Porte, then attacking them.

He's looked good this tour

 

[ontheroad]

I'm calling ***. Fell, got up, and still put 26 seconds into Quintana at the line.

 

[BYOP88]

Maybe he found the plans from Eufemiano Fuentes for Frank on the team bus this morning.

 

[Lyon]

What is Leinders up to these days?

 

[sniper]

Leinders?

He's being investigated by the Belgian cycling federation.

Since 2013...

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report-belgian-federation-to-investigate-dr-leinders/

 

[kwikki]

I can't imagine what Bauke Mollema's DS would know about doping. Nor show any inclination towards its use.

 

[Dumorain]

Re:

Leinders?

He's being investigated by the Belgian cycling federation.

Since 2013...

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report-belgian-federation-to-investigate-dr-leinders/

No: he already received a lifelong ban last year:

http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2015/01/22/oud-rabodokter-geert-leinders-voor-het-leven-geschorst-a1419305

Quite a strange thread this. As if climbing requires some sort of special background. In the end you need to push your pedals and that power combined with your weight decides how fast you move forward.

You can very well practice pushing your pedals on a flat section and use that 'experience' on a hill.

 

[sniper]

Re: Re:

Leinders?

He's being investigated by the Belgian cycling federation.

Since 2013...

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report-belgian-federation-to-investigate-dr-leinders/

No: he already received a lifelong ban last year:

http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2015/01/22/oud-rabodokter-geert-leinders-voor-het-leven-geschorst-a1419305

Quite a strange thread this. As if climbing requires some sort of special background. In the end you need to push your pedals and that power combined with your weight decides how fast you move forward.

You can very well practice pushing your pedals on a flat section and use that 'experience' on a hill.

In the era of marginal gains and altitude natives, you don't think being born and raised in a mountaineous area would (other things equal) constitute a noteworthy gain?

The physiological gain is clearly tenuous, but the gain in terms of experience seems obvious: having ridden those Alpes and Pyrennees many times as a junior/amateur/u23 surely should be a notable gain when you turn a pro in a hypothetical clean peloton.

My point is: rampant doping cancels out all these fair advantages.
Lesser quantities of doping among French pros in the post-Festina era quite plausibly accounts for their comparatively poor results in the TDF in the same era.
In a hypothetical clean peloton, French riders should be scoring lots and lots of podiums in the TDF GC.

 

[sniper]

tweet from Ufe (@oufeh):

"In Le Monde today, Vayer questions the sudden Dutch renaissance: Dumoulin Vuelta 2015, Kruijswijk at Giro, now Mollema, all gained about 20W"

When you add Poels, it's a remarkable renaissance indeed.

(only Gesink is a bit of an anomaly)

And meanwhile endurance coach/manager Herman Ram and some other Dutch pseudo-scientists are positing the claim that EPO doesn't work.