Hitch clearly didn't watch the Vuelta last year if the thinks Marzio Bruseghin had a weak Vuelta.
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burning said:Anton is good on insane steep climbs(The only thing he can do for a while ) even though he is simply horrible since his crash on Vuelta
And I doubt that he rode slowly just to have fun with Nibali, as next day on Gardeccia, he lost ground to Scarponi on final 1km, it is not like he was putting minutes on everyone on Gardeccia
El Pistolero said:Hitch clearly didn't watch the Vuelta last year if the thinks Marzio Bruseghin had a weak Vuelta.
The Hitch said:Yeah, thats 1 example, we are going to need a bit more than that to justify the posts above which act as if its a regular occurence. Maybe Contador really was just outsprinted by Rujano on Grossglockner and couldnt hold Tiralongos wheel on macanuga.
That was 1 example, i want to see 10 others or some comments being retracted.
As for Zoncolan Contador put minutes into everyone at will on the previous mountain stages, and rode away from everyone for kicks and gigles on the next 2, as well as winning the mountain tt by half a minute having been 30 down at the bottom of the climb.
I know some of you are such big Anton fans that you take it personally, but honestly you find it that ridiculous to suggest Contador, especially on his Giro 2011 from, could not have kept up with Anton on Zoncolan?
And if you want to cry that anyone who reached that conclusion is some blind biased Contador fan, i will respond by suggesting that the reason yall cling so tight to this notion that fuji outclimbed Contador on 1 gt stage, might be because that, and dropping old man Marzio from a weak *** breakaway 3 months later, are the most recent memories of his talent that yall are left with.
No matter how one's form is perfect, one can not be super during all 6-8 main mountain days. it's unreal physically. very likely, anton prepared himself for that stage specially, conserved energy, so no wonder he beat contador. no that it would be totally impossible, but for what? to win zonc at the expense of incredible effort and on the next day to be dropped by scarponi? it's impractical and, of course, reputation is more important.The Hitch said:I know some of you are such big Anton fans that you take it personally, but honestly you find it that ridiculous to suggest Contador, especially on his Giro 2011 from, could not have kept up with Anton on Zoncolan?
maybe, but this year it wasn't so. this year vuelta was the hardest for many many years for sure. i even think that only 3 gts were harder than this vuelta: 2002 tour, 2006 giro and 2011 giro for the last 15 years at least.El Pistolero said:Giro-Tour combo is also harder than the Tour-Vuelta combo. That year's Giro was also one of the hardest modern Giro's.
Seriously? IMO this year's Vuelta is overrated regarding toughness. How long was the longest mountain stage? I guess it's something like 185 km..airstream said:maybe, but this year it wasn't so. this year vuelta was the hardest for many many years for sure. i even think that only 3 gts were harder than this vuelta: 2002 tour, 2006 giro and 2011 giro for the last 15 years at least.
Netserk said:Seriously? IMO this year's Vuelta is overrated regarding toughness. How long was the longest mountain stage? I guess it's something like 185 km..
Trend? And how long was stage 20 of this year's Giro?airstream said:it's a trend. since recently stages get only shorter. finish climbs were very demanding
Netserk said:Seriously? IMO this year's Vuelta is overrated regarding toughness. How long was the longest mountain stage? I guess it's something like 185 km..
yes. One of the hardest Vueltas. But it is still no way as hard as the Giros. IMOjens_attacks said:high average speed
the favourites had to use lots of energy in at least 10 stages.
overall,super hard vuelta for the contenders,probably one of the hardest in last years.
Netserk said:yes. One of the hardest Vueltas. But it is still no way as hard as the Giros. IMO
jens_attacks said:it depends on how hard the giro's were ridden
the speed there on the climbs was lower but the stages were way harder indeed.
you could really compare them only if you had ridden both of them,we got to ask purito
next year's grand tours will certainly be harder now when other teams will step up to confront sky,especially saxo
jens_attacks said:it depends on how hard the giro's were ridden
the speed there on the climbs was lower but the stages were way harder indeed.
you could really compare them only if you had ridden both of them,we got to ask purito
next year's grand tours will certainly be harder now when other teams will step up to confront sky,especially saxo
obvious bluff. he will never let principal rivals go just like that because of pride and conceit. psychological edge is a big deal in such big games. perhaps, that's the main rule of super elite gc riders - ' never show any weakness, no way'. i didn't quite get the last sentence. tens of thousands came to bola to like how the man from pinto trying to win the stage, but he didn't want 'to crush himself upon the mountain'? it's a bit illogical and insincere, put it mildly.The Hitch said:Contador said for example after Bola that he rode within his limits because he knew he was safe with the 2 minutes gap. If youve got a big gc lead you dont need to crush it up every mountain.
Contadoraus Schlecks said:I wonder if the results of this poll would be the same if re-done now?
Contadoraus Schlecks said:I wonder if the results of this poll would be the same if re-done now?
Contadoraus Schlecks said:I wonder if the results of this poll would be the same if re-done now?