Hugh Carthy discussion thread

[del1962]

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I love it when a rider from a break wins!

Great ride Hug!

More solo than in a break though, which makes it more impressive

 

[Escarabajo]

What a marathon for Carthy today. His ride was really very joy-able to watch.

 

[DanielSong39]

He's been impressive, I heard his name several times in the Giro and it looks like it carried over to the Tour de Suisse.

 

[staubsauger]

Hughly impressive victory by Carthy!

Yes, I had to make that joke. I'm really sorry.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Not surprised he can climb. But it's encouraging to see that he has the endurance as well.

 

[del1962]

Last ride before his mid season break, happy holidays

 

[MADRAZO]

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Last ride before his mid season break, happy holidays

He apears to be on the startlist for the British National Championship Road Race

 

[del1962]

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Last ride before his mid season break, happy holidays

He apears to be on the startlist for the British National Championship Road Race

Its in Norfolk not his terrain

 

[Davesta]

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Last ride before his mid season break, happy holidays

He apears to be on the startlist for the British National Championship Road Race

Its in Norfolk not his terrain

Perhaps he's there to support teammate Dan McLay, who's also on the startlist, and who would like this terrain...?

 

[Anderis]

The man has dropped all GC guys on a MTF during a GT and that's not even enough to see a revival of this thread if not for me?

It's a shame he doesn't have a strong team to help him. Should he take a race lead at some point, he will be very vurnelable. Martinez DNFed, Van Garderen climbs like a sprinter recently, Cort is not the 2019 Dauphine Cort here, Woods is not really made to be a domestique (not a tempo rider, not a great descender, a poor rouleur etc.) and the rest are just 2nd rate heavy classics riders.

I smell a transfer to Ineos by 2022 at the latest.

 

[RedheadDane]

Cort is not the 2019 Dauphine Cort here,

Yeah, Cort is Just-came-back-from-Covid-Cort.

 

[yaco]

Carthy is one of the last riders who would go to Ineos - Think he can do a top 5 on GC and i rate him above Geoghan Hart.

 

[Anderis]

Carthy is one of the last riders who would go to Ineos

What do you base this opinion on?

What if they offer a contract 2x higher than anyone else?

 

[Descender]

This guy will win the Vuelta.

 

[yaco]

What do you base this opinion on?

What if they offer a contract 2x higher than anyone else?

He is a free-spirit who found his own way in the sport - Moved to Spain to get a contract at Caja Rural, then moved to a maverick team in EF - Doubt he will ever be in a highly structured team.

 

[TMP402]

He is a free-spirit who found his own way in the sport - Moved to Spain to get a contract at Caja Rural, then moved to a maverick team in EF - Doubt he will ever be in a highly structured team.

I agree - I've always got that vibe.

 

[Jungle Cycle]

2007, 14y

https://twitter.com/x/status/1321553438669443072

View: https://twitter.com/classicretro/status/1321553438669443072/photo/1

 

[will-10]

He is a free-spirit who found his own way in the sport - Moved to Spain to get a contract at Caja Rural, then moved to a maverick team in EF - Doubt he will ever be in a highly structured team.

There's been plenty of free-spirits captured by Sky/Ineos $$$s.

 

[Anderis]

Hopefully my career is going to die the same way one day.

 

[gunara]

There's been plenty of free-spirits captured by Sky/Ineos $$$s.

Their $$$s captured any spirit, free, caged, or even lost one like König.
But adding Carthy to their squad will really be an overkill. You only have 3 GTs in a season, when your team has more than 3 riders with aspiration and capability of winning one, something is robbed from the sport.

 

[will-10]

Their $$$s captured any spirit, free, caged, or even lost one like König.
But adding Carthy to their squad will really be an overkill. You only have 3 GTs in a season, when your team has more than 3 riders with aspiration and capability of winning one, something is robbed from the sport.

Unpopular opinion on CN forums: There are other races than the 3 GTs.

You think adding Yates, Martinez & Porte to a team with Carapaz, Bernal, and Thomas (& Tao, & Sivakov...) on the roster isn't overkill already?

 

[gunara]

Unpopular opinion on CN forums: There are other races than the 3 GTs.

You think adding Yates, Martinez & Porte to a team with Carapaz, Bernal, and Thomas (& Tao, & Sivakov...) on the roster isn't overkill already?

I also don't like team piling up top classic riders, but at least in one day race - even in the biggest ones - everyone has bigger chance to win for himself and not about slaving for someone else for 3 weeks. So QS's style of collecting top riders are easier to forgive than Ineos'.
Or you mean one week stage races? That's exactly it, something is wrong if these top climbers are hired to lead one-week races.
Or you mean these Ineos climbers are signed because they are thought to have a good shot at some big hilly classics? I don't think so.

About their next year rooster, yes it's bad enough already, especially after Hart's Giro.

 

[johnymax]

Amazing ride today. Best TT performance of his career? I think so. Correct me if I'm wrong. He is still in the race for the win but even a podium would be a huge result. Another young(ish) GC contender to add to the Tao and Hindley tier.

 

[KZD]

He is doing a superb Vuelta. If Roglic has a bad day on Saturday he may even take the overall which would be incredible

 

[JosefK]

Amazing ride today. Best TT performance of his career? I think so. Correct me if I'm wrong. He is still in the race for the win but even a podium would be a huge result. Another young(ish) GC contender to add to the Tao and Hindley tier.

Yes, and I think Hugh's TT today (stage 13 Vuelta) was more impressive than Tao's final TT at the Giro.