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Il Lombardia 2017

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Leinster said:
DFA123 said:
Something slightly meh when a rider wins a parcours clearly designed for him to win on.

Yeah, the way the road went up the hill, and then down again afterwards, and then up another hill and down again, and then up another hill and, wait for it, DOWN AGAIN, was so obviously set up for him and no other rider ever had a chance.
:) It was almost as if they wanted to find out who was the best bike racer
 
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DFA123 said:
Disappointing for Pinot, he animated the race and certainly didn't leave anything on the road. I think though he'll still have to work on his descending a bit more to break his one day race curse. He wasted way too much energy trying to limit the gap to Nibali on the downhill.
2nd or 10th or 20th doesn't make too much difference...
 
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Eyeballs Out said:
Leinster said:
DFA123 said:
Something slightly meh when a rider wins a parcours clearly designed for him to win on.

Yeah, the way the road went up the hill, and then down again afterwards, and then up another hill and down again, and then up another hill and, wait for it, DOWN AGAIN, was so obviously set up for him and no other rider ever had a chance.
:) It was almost as if they wanted to find out who was the best bike racer
This. Descent finishes > Uphill Finishes.
 
Road cycling is getting lower and lower with another win for the corrupt terrorism-sponsoring pro-Western, pro Israel Gulf oil dictators.

What a bad image for the sport.

Fortunately there were great wins to enjoy by Mathieu Van der Poel and Sanne Cant in the mud. ;)
 
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Eyeballs Out said:
Leinster said:
DFA123 said:
Something slightly meh when a rider wins a parcours clearly designed for him to win on.

Yeah, the way the road went up the hill, and then down again afterwards, and then up another hill and down again, and then up another hill and, wait for it, DOWN AGAIN, was so obviously set up for him and no other rider ever had a chance.
:) It was almost as if they wanted to find out who was the best bike racer
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Leinster said:
DFA123 said:
Something slightly meh when a rider wins a parcours clearly designed for him to win on.

Yeah, the way the road went up the hill, and then down again afterwards, and then up another hill and down again, and then up another hill and, wait for it, DOWN AGAIN, was so obviously set up for him and no other rider ever had a chance.
More the fact that Lombardia has transitioned in to a race more for high mountain specialists than for classics riders in the last few years. Coincidentally at the very same time as Italy started to lose their top classics riders and gained several good high mountain climbers.

High mountain climbers already have loads of prestigious races throughout the year they can win - there's no need to design a monument for them as well.
 
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franic said:
DFA123 said:
Disappointing for Pinot, he animated the race and certainly didn't leave anything on the road. I think though he'll still have to work on his descending a bit more to break his one day race curse. He wasted way too much energy trying to limit the gap to Nibali on the downhill.
2nd or 10th or 20th doesn't make too much difference...
What? 2nd in a monument is MUCH better than 10th or 20th. Good race by him, though. I wish he'd have beat Moscon for 3rd.
 
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DFA123 said:
Leinster said:
DFA123 said:
Something slightly meh when a rider wins a parcours clearly designed for him to win on.

Yeah, the way the road went up the hill, and then down again afterwards, and then up another hill and down again, and then up another hill and, wait for it, DOWN AGAIN, was so obviously set up for him and no other rider ever had a chance.
More the fact that Lombardia has transitioned in to a race more for high mountain specialists than for classics riders in the last few years. Coincidentally at the very same time as Italy started to lose their top classics riders and gained several good high mountain climbers.

High mountain climbers already have loads of prestigious races throughout the year they can win - there's no need to design a monument for them as well.
it is still a good balance when you see riders like Alaphilippe and Moscon who could win.
 
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jaylew said:
franic said:
DFA123 said:
Disappointing for Pinot, he animated the race and certainly didn't leave anything on the road. I think though he'll still have to work on his descending a bit more to break his one day race curse. He wasted way too much energy trying to limit the gap to Nibali on the downhill.
2nd or 10th or 20th doesn't make too much difference...
What? 2nd in a monument is MUCH better than 10th or 20th.
Indeed. This idea that only 1st place matters is utterly ridiculous, for a whole load of commercial and sporting reasons.
 
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jaylew said:
franic said:
DFA123 said:
Disappointing for Pinot, he animated the race and certainly didn't leave anything on the road. I think though he'll still have to work on his descending a bit more to break his one day race curse. He wasted way too much energy trying to limit the gap to Nibali on the downhill.
2nd or 10th or 20th doesn't make too much difference...
What? 2nd in a monument is MUCH better than 10th or 20th. Good race by him, though. I wish he'd have beat Moscon for 3rd.
Of course it's much better, but the difference between 1st and second is much greater than the difference between 2nd and 10th. Decreasing marginal utility...
 
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DingoGuesdon said:
DFA123 said:
Leinster said:
DFA123 said:
Something slightly meh when a rider wins a parcours clearly designed for him to win on.

Yeah, the way the road went up the hill, and then down again afterwards, and then up another hill and down again, and then up another hill and, wait for it, DOWN AGAIN, was so obviously set up for him and no other rider ever had a chance.
More the fact that Lombardia has transitioned in to a race more for high mountain specialists than for classics riders in the last few years. Coincidentally at the very same time as Italy started to lose their top classics riders and gained several good high mountain climbers.

High mountain climbers already have loads of prestigious races throughout the year they can win - there's no need to design a monument for them as well.
it is still a good balance when you see riders like Alaphilippe and Moscon who could win.
Not sure they were really that close to winning. If Nibali wasn't there and hadn't put Pinot or Uran into the red on the descent, then one of those two would win.

Six years in a row now that Lombardia has been won by GT climbing specialists. It's a bit much imo.