Il Lombardia 2021 (October 9th)

[Red Rick]

I think Remco will have to ride smarter than usual to win this. If he can’t ride Colbrelli off his wheel, he won’t be able to do that to Roglic, Pogacar, Yates, Gaudu, Vingo etc either.

Where he has an advantage is none of those guys will want to tow Alaf or Almeida to Bergamo. If the selection is small enough, and he makes his move solo, he can maybe stay away.

Question is when, because the later he leaves it the more riders will make it their primary tactic to stick to Evenepoels wheel here.

 

[Bonimenier]

I have obviously missed the introduction of some in-joke recently. Who is Steve Urkel?

 

[Big Doopie]

I think Remco will have to ride smarter than usual to win this. If he can’t ride Colbrelli off his wheel, he won’t be able to do that to Roglic, Pogacar, Yates, Gaudu, Vingo etc either.

Where he has an advantage is none of those guys will want to tow Alaf or Almeida to Bergamo. If the selection is small enough, and he makes his move solo, he can maybe stay away.

well he has actually already ridden pog, Yates and vingo off his wheel. Gaudu (and I am a fan), puhleeeze.

true, if pog finds his Tdf form again, he will be in the mix for the win.

main thing is Rog.

and I agree with u, having team numbers is the only way to beat Rog.

Rog needs to be isolated while remco still has at least one teammate.

however, I see a scenario where remco’s attack isolates him WITH Rog. At that point, he may want to check in with Bernal and how that worked out in the Vuelta.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Sorry: I am none the wiser as to who this is or why he would be a reference to any rider.

 

[hayneplane]

I think Bagioli is an outside bet for the win from a break. Vansevenant is more of a domestique.

Especially as he has a finishing sprint that is as good as anyone in the race given his Dauphine stage win directly against a flying form Roglic.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Question is when, because the later he leaves it the more riders will make it their primary tactic to stick to Evenepoels wheel here.

Cantu honestly. No one will expect it and wolfpack just has to mark everyone. Easy win.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Sorry: I am none the wiser as to who this is or why he would be a reference to any rider.

It's Steve Urkel, a character from the 90s sitcom Family Matters. He had the well known catchphrase "Did I do that".
I'm not sure, but I think because of his glasses he might resemble David Gaudu a little bit. I'll have to see a picture of Gaudu wearing suspenders to fully buy it, though.

 

[Anderis]

Hmm, are they actually trying out a new revolutionary way of assigning race numbers in this race...

 

[RedheadDane]

Eolo too.

• 11. EOLO-Kometa
  • 11 ALBANESE Vincenzo
  • 101 FORTUNATO Lorenzo
  • 102 BAIS Davide
  • 103 CHRISTIAN Mark
  • 104 FETTER Erik
  • 105 GAVAZZI Francesco
  • 106 RAVASI Edward

 

[Pantani_lives]

Teams arranged by strength:

1. DQSt: Alaphilippe, Evenepoel, Almeida, Masnada
2. Jumbo: Roglic, Vingegaard, Kruijswijk, Bennett
3. UAE: Pogacar, McNulty, Hirschi, Formolo
4. Bahrein: Landa, Padun, Haig, Mäder
5. Ineos: A. Yates, Moscon, Hart, Sivakov
6. Israel: De Marchi, Martin, Woods, Froome
7. Astana: Vlasov, Lutsenko
8. Trek: Nibali, Mollema
9. GrFdJ: Pinot, Gaudu
10. DSM: Bardet, Benoot
11. Arkea: Quintana, Barguil
12. EF: Uran, Higuita
13. Qhubeka: Pozzovivo, Campenaerts
14. Movistar: Valverde
15. BikeEx: S. Yates
16. Cofidis: G. Martin
17. Lotto: Wellens
18. Bora: Buchmann
19. AG2R: Cosnefroy
20. Alpecin: Vakoc
21. Intermarché: Meintjes
22. Bardiani: Zana
23. Eolo: Gavazzi
24. ViniZ: Frapporti
25. Androni: Sepúlveda

Strong field indeed.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

It's Steve Urkel, a character from the 90s sitcom Family Matters. He had the well known catchphrase "Did I do that".
I'm not sure, but I think because of his glasses he might resemble David Gaudu a little bit. I'll have to see a picture of Gaudu wearing suspenders to fully buy it, though.

Not well enough known to have made any impact on my awareness.

And reading your last sentence with the UK English understanding of 'suspenders' leaves me with a mental image I would be very keen to erase.

But thanks for the explanation.

 

[noob]

Not well enough known to have made any impact on my awareness.

And reading your last sentence with the UK English understanding of 'suspenders' leaves me with a mental image I would be very keen to erase.

But thanks for the explanation.

@Samu Cuenca Actually It's Storer, he doesn't look like Urkel, but he has a quite sharp, irritating voice for my sensitive ears! Also mildly irritating during the vuelta being everywhere. I can't find any good clips though and the ones I find he does not sound half as annoying as he did during the vuelta. He's not half as high pitched as Urkel! I was really annoyed with him all the vuelta and never counted him out after that.

 

[SafeBet]

Teams arranged by strength:

1. DQSt: Alaphilippe, Evenepoel, Almeida, Masnada
2. Jumbo: Roglic, Vingegaard, Kruijswijk, Bennett
3. UAE: Pogacar, McNulty, Hirschi, Formolo
4. Bahrein: Landa, Padun, Haig, Mäder
5. Ineos: A. Yates, Moscon, Hart, Sivakov
6. Israel: De Marchi, Martin, Woods, Froome
7. Astana: Vlasov, Lutsenko
8. Trek: Nibali, Mollema
9. GrFdJ: Pinot, Gaudu
10. DSM: Bardet, Benoot
11. Arkea: Quintana, Barguil
12. EF: Uran, Higuita
13. Qhubeka: Pozzovivo, Campenaerts
14. Movistar: Valverde
15. BikeEx: S. Yates
16. Cofidis: G. Martin
17. Lotto: Wellens
18. Bora: Buchmann
19. AG2R: Cosnefroy
20. Alpecin: Vakoc
21. Intermarché: Meintjes
22. Bardiani: Zana
23. Eolo: Gavazzi
24. ViniZ: Frapporti
25. Androni: Sepúlveda

Strong field indeed.

I'd take UAE over Jumbo.
I can't see anybody but Roglic being there in the final if the hard racing starts early.

 

[PinotZakarin]

Especially as he has a finishing sprint that is as good as anyone in the race given his Dauphine stage win directly against a flying form Roglic.

It was on Tour de L'Ain I think

 

[Berflamand]

DQS sports director Lodewyck said they might try something new as everyone will be expecting Remco to attack early. He's curious to see what happens when he doesn't attack from far. He thinks the others won't really know what to do and who will take initiative. This might make it unpredictable and chaotic which should be benificial for DQS as they have multiple strong options.

 

[wheresmybrakes]

DQS sports director Lodewyck said they might try something new as everyone will be expecting Remco to attack early. He's curious to see what happens when he doesn't attack from far. He thinks the others won't really know what to do and who will take initiative. This might make it unpredictable and chaotic which should be benificial for DQS as they have multiple strong options.

If that is the case then the others will have one less quickstepper to look out for. Remco will attack at some point as its the only way he can win, if he doesn't attack then Remco is out out of the equation. If anybody thinks Remco will not attack must be smoking something really bad, its only a case of when he attacks, not if. I think he will get a podium (if he finishes), not sure he will win considering the competition.

 

[Blanco]

DQS sports director Lodewyck said they might try something new as everyone will be expecting Remco to attack early. He's curious to see what happens when he doesn't attack from far. He thinks the others won't really know what to do and who will take initiative. This might make it unpredictable and chaotic which should be benificial for DQS as they have multiple strong options.

What a great plan
It is the best way to isolate Almeida, when Roglic, Pogacar or Yates drops the hammer on Ganda...

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Not well enough known to have made any impact on my awareness.

And reading your last sentence with the UK English understanding of 'suspenders' leaves me with a mental image I would be very keen to erase.

But thanks for the explanation.

Thanks for reminding me, that they are called braces in British English.

@Samu Cuenca Actually It's Storer, he doesn't look like Urkel, but he has a quite sharp, irritating voice for my sensitive ears! Also mildly irritating during the vuelta being everywhere. I can't find any good clips though and the ones I find he does not sound half as annoying as he did during the vuelta. He's not half as high pitched as Urkel! I was really annoyed with him all the vuelta and never counted him out after that.

Ok, there was no way I was ever going to figure that out then

 

[noob]

Thanks for reminding me, that they are called braces in British English.



Ok, there was no way I was ever going to figure that out then

Me either But man was I irritated by him in the vuelta. Was he still that good this week I would be equally irritated lol.

I never expect my favorites to win, but rather the ones I dislike

 

[topcat]

I'd take UAE over Jumbo.
I can't see anybody but Roglic being there in the final if the hard racing starts early.

I'm taking the day off fishing tomorrow.
You're Giggs tomorrow. It's a rotating role.

 

[Mayomaniac]

From what we've seen before Roglic isn't that strong in a Monument compared to shorter, hilly one day races.
I kinda want to see Formolo go with Remco early on, but he's probably the one guy that I wouldn't pick to beat remco in a sprint...

 

[titan31]

From what we've seen before Roglic isn't that strong in a Monument compared to shorter, hilly one day races.
I kinda want to see Formolo go with Remco early on, but he's probably the one guy that I wouldn't pick to beat remco in a sprint...

Tbf, he's won LBL but that's still true. He just goes from best in the world at those to one of the best.

 

[Red Rick]

I'd take UAE over Jumbo.
I can't see anybody but Roglic being there in the final if the hard racing starts early.

IMO Vingegaard looked pretty good Emilia. And Kruijswijk looked decent as well but he was chasing behind the group for a long time. And it's also a matter of what size of group are we talking about.

I both UAE and Jumbo will likely look to launch Roglic/Pogi on Ganda and after that the groups should be very small.

 

[topcat]

I'm a fan of Remco. I like attacks. I find sprints meh. I find both the Remco over-hype and the snide remarks amusing. But do ppl really think that the kid is going to attack from over 70 km out and stay away (in Lombardia)?
Also, that would make the race hard and I don't think that's the best strategy for Alaphillipe.

 

[gregrowlerson]

Well....he has the build of a pure climber.