Ilnur Zakarin Discussion thread

[mavmav]

Can anyone point to the proof that Zakarin climbs better then Kelderman? Maybe he will th coming week, but so far he hasn't and it's purely wishful thinking presented as fact...

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Best ITT in years.

And yeah, this Vuelta he has not climbed better than Kelderman. In fact, I think the two are rather on par to eachother. Zakarin is somewhat more solid in 3 week GT's though. So we'll see the next days.

 

[telencefalus]

the battle for 3rd spot in the podium will be interesting but i think that kelderman has the edge ,but they both won't win ANY gt

 

[Breh]

Indeed, they look quite evenly matched so far. Kelderman lost some on Xorret de Cati and on sunday. Zakarin lost some time on other stages.

He won't go down without a fight, thats for sure.

 

[BullsFan22]

One of these guys will crack in the final stages. Maybe both will crack. It's a matter of who will crack less...it also depends on the descents. I wonder if Sunweb will try something on one of the descents to put pressure on Zakarin. Otherwise I'd give the slight edge to Zakarin, despite the 27 second deficit he has on Keldermann.

 

[python]

One of these guys will crack in the final stages. Maybe both will crack. It's a matter of who will crack less...it also depends on the descents. I wonder if Sunweb will try something on one of the descents to put pressure on Zakarin. Otherwise I'd give the slight edge to Zakarin, despite the 27 second deficit he has on Keldermann.

if memory serves, zaka in the giro was showing great climbing capacity in the 3d week, but was literally a non-factor in a last time trial...

now contrast it with what we saw in the last 2-3 stages - the same climbing along the best if not a tad better and...a tt-ing pedigree today he was missing in the giro.

my guess: his recovery is better NOW than at the giro and he therefore may be quite aggressive in the remaining stages to bank it. whether it will be enough to for a podium, i dont know, but i'd bet on him vs the kelder-kid given my observations hold...

 

[Red Rick]

It's between Kelderman, Zakarin, and MAL for the 3rd spot. Contador is just gonna light a fire and watch it burn. I'm hoping either Zak or MAL takes it.

 

[The Barb]

I'm pretty surprised about the bookies' prices to make the podium, which are roughly:

Keldermann $1.80
Lopez $2.20
Zakarin $2.75

To me Zakarin has a far superior chance to Lopez and about equal with Kelderman.

 

[telencefalus]

the bookies are not completly wrong i would put MAL for 3rd place is on stellar form , Zakarin did a very good itt

 

[portugal11]

Re:

It's between Kelderman, Zakarin, and MAL for the 3rd spot. Contador is just gonna light a fire and watch it burn. I'm hoping either Zak or MAL takes it.

So you don't want a dutch in the podium? :surprised:

 

[Eclipse]

Oh yes the legs are there!

In prime position to make himself an enemy of Contador fans for life if he spends the rest of the race marking him for the podium though haha.

 

[Breh]

Haha, yes. Froome to lose 5minutes on ANgliru so Zakarin, Nibali and Contador can occupy the podium

Pinched off 15seconds already, it's looking promising . Contador has become more of a threat though.

I wonder if he should've went for it earlier, he looked pretty good to me.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Zakarin was crafty, he couldn't have gone earlier. He first let Kelderman try and close down Nibali, so to test his strength, and then went when he saw Kelderman was already at his limit.
Smart ride, 15s is enough if he does the same on Angliru.

But I think his main worry for podium is not Kelderman, but Contador.

 

[Frankschleck]

Re:

Zakarin was crafty, he couldn't have gone earlier. He first let Kelderman try and close down Nibali, so to test his strength, and then went when he saw Kelderman was already at his limit.
Smart ride, 15s is enough if he does the same on Angliru.

But I think his main worry for podium is not Kelderman, but Contador.

I think zakarin is the rider with the biggest chance to win the vuelta, if he attacks from the bottom of the angliru, he skowed in the giro how strong he gets, can't see anyone be better than him.

 

[yaco]

Zakharin is riding beautifully - He's ready to ride the TDF in 2018.

 

[Breh]

Status quo with Kelderman. Contador only gained 4seconds. 2nd place is only 52 seconds away.

That attack with 4 of his teammates on Ozalba was pretty funny. Reminded me of Monte Grappa this year.

 

[yaco]

He can win the Angliru stage.

 

[python]

Re:

Status quo with Kelderman. Contador only gained 4seconds. 2nd place is only 52 seconds away.

That attack with 4 of his teammates on Ozalba was pretty funny. Reminded me of Monte Grappa this year.

what was that about ? Just a test or a statement 'i feel good' ?

 

[The Barb]

No doubt his form is great and he could win on the Angliru.

A bit worried about the preceding descents given the bad forecast, however.

 

[markene2]

Podium secured awsome ride today

 

[Eclipse]

A very good ride today to secure the podium

Mission accomplished I think

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Deserved podium with a lot of strong rides in the 3rd week.

 

[Forever The Best]

Congrats for the podium Zaka.

 

[DBotero]

Wow.Zakarin on the podium of La Vuelta Really didn't expected it after his Giro showing where I was considering him podium material,but didn't make it.There is some hope for a GT win in the future.

 

[Climbing]

Congratulations for achieving a well deserved podium!