argyllflyer said:...who had done no GT training.
Winning a Tour doesn't count? When did little ritchie win his one again? I forgot what year it was. While you're at it which week long tour did he win this year? Or did he actually finish one?
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argyllflyer said:...who had done no GT training.
M Sport said:Picking that rider that has a shocking day in every GT he's ever rode in as your #2 when you had Wigems available?
kenk09 said:What year do you think it is?
Froome, Porte, Nieve, Thomas. All better GC choices than Brad.
If Brad was at the Tour he would have been riding next to Danny Pate.
M Sport said:With all due respect, I don't get into arguments with posters who have 6 post to their name and started following cycling two months ago.
M Sport said:With all due respect, I don't get into arguments with posters who have 6 post to their name and started following cycling two months ago. Froome was an automatic selection, the others from my recollection don't have a win or a third placing amongst them in the Tour. They also didn't have a win in a week long race this year before they were told they would have no part in the Tour team.
thehog said:When they don't have a Froome type just drilling it on the front they have absolutely zero tactical sense.
The French are showing up the Brits by a long way.
M Sport said:Picking that rider that has a shocking day in every GT he's ever rode in as your #2 when you had Wigems available?
JRanton said:Oh dear.
You see this is the problem. Utter delusion about Wiggins' current capability to do well in a grand tour. All because he beat some kids in a no mark one week race in the US of A. Jesus Christ.
Can you remind me how Wiggins performed in races like Tirreno Adriatico and Tour de Suisse this year? You know, races that actually mean something.
thehog said:Didn't that Wiggins guy win the Tour once?
His 2012 season was probably on par if not better than Froome's 2013.
whittashau said:He did say that Wiggo would be riding next to Danny Pate
Which is obviously not true as clearly with all the rain he would have abandoned by now.
thehog said:When they don't have a Froome type just drilling it on the front they have absolutely zero tactical sense.
The French are showing up the Brits by a long way.
ferryman said:You are hard work at times Hog. A Kenyan and a Welshman doesn't = a British team. Say Sky when you mean it without the cheap shots.
yespatterns said:J ranton is obviously an expert and knows all. We should abide his decisions and get back to shining Bradford and Froomes shoes. Or not.
Thomas and Nieve infiltrated a 17-man move that sprung clear after just 16km and proved instrumental in driving it forwards on the most mountainous stage of the race.
Thomas worked hard to ensure the move was over five minutes ahead as they topped the first of two massive climbs, and Nieve crested the Tour’s highest pass in third position before the escapees dropped back down to tackle one last drag to the finish.
http://www.teamsky.com/article/0,27290,30906_9387745,00.html#iRytZtGZ6IrvvwbO.99
Jelantik said:I guess the science and mathematic calculation by Brailsford didn't prepare him to have Richie drop like a stone on the first mountain. To be quiet honest, i didn't think Richie was even a contender judging by how his season and the last dauphine performance. If he was in the form as 2013, then he'll be trade acceleration back and forth with Nibali by now. Not sure bringing wiggins will do any difference. Unless if wiggo gaining more than 3 minutes on the cobble stage, then he might be up there.
I just feel sorry for Richie. He wanted to be a leader on GT race. Then he got his chance on the Giro, he didn't even get a chance to participate. Then Froome suddenly crash, so the spot for being a leader at TDF suddenly just handed off to him. For the years to come, Froome will be the leader for TDF, and Richie is just going to be the second fiddle for Froome. But when the opportunity opens up, it was just too bad he didn't have the leg. It's so close and yet it's so far. Next year Nibali will be in the Giro. Are we going to have Nibali vs Porte at 2015 Giro?
thehog said:Nibali will want to defend the Tour against Contador. Froome I think will be nowhere next year. He's broken mentally.
Porte is really more a one day rider. They just get way too Tour obsessed at Sky and forget other races.
Probably are another clear out by years end. Get Yates back. Get some people in the team who actually know about racing tactics.
MatParker117 said:Brian Smith?
thehog said:Nibali will want to defend the Tour against Contador. Froome I think will be nowhere next year. He's broken mentally.