Question Is Chris Froome cleans?

[Rechtschreibfehler]

I love that the idea of Froome being protected by the UCI and too big to fall can coexist so peacefully with the idea that Froome needed to fake a career-ending crash just to... provide an excuse for why he sucks now because he was going off drugs for some whimsical reason? What?

It was not a whimsical reason. His Alien insectoid shape shifter physiology was being pressed to much to stay in it's form, while also riding fast. The crash was an overreaction of his auto-mimicrial system and since then he's just been scared to fully use his alien powers, because he might turn into a praying mantis or something on camera next time.

 

[Extinction]

I love that the idea of Froome being protected by the UCI and too big to fall can coexist so peacefully with the idea that Froome needed to fake a career-ending crash just to... provide an excuse for why he sucks now because he was going off drugs for some whimsical reason? What?

I just find it highly suspiscious that, after spending millions in legal fees defending Chris during the clengate affair, Ineos let him go after the "crash". Why didn't they remain loyal to a guy who won them 4 Tours, a Giro and a Vuelta? Instead they dumped him at the moment he became a liability. Although they didn't dump Bernal who had a massive, if not worse, crash, but not a doping scandal in tow. And I don't trust the UCI, which for years covered up for Armstrong. The organization is corrupt to the gills. Of course, things could have gone as we've been told, but judging by how pathetic Froome has been since (even though he has completely recovered), I wonder if there is more to the story than meets the eye. Whatever the case, Froome was certainly massively doped during his winning years and now rides on pane e acqua alone.

 

[Rackham]

I love that the idea of Froome being protected by the UCI and too big to fall can coexist so peacefully with the idea that Froome needed to fake a career-ending crash just to... provide an excuse for why he sucks now because he was going off drugs for some whimsical reason? What?

The conspiracy theory was that Froome got shadow banned by the UCI and the crash was a PR exercise to cover him.

 

[Rackham]

Whatever the case, Froome was certainly massively doped during his winning years and now rides on pane e acqua alone.

The main point about the people who might scream 'conspiracy theorist' and dismiss questions about the Dauphiné crash immediately is they don't quite grasp in this instance that Froome is a proven liar. Hands down a pathological liar and a cheat on an industrialized level.

This is a man who forged documents to take part in a race to further his career. He also held onto the back of a motorcycle on the Mortirolo in the 2010 Giro.

Some of the stuff he's done is comically dishonest. That's why I shrug when that infamous Dauphiné incident is brought up.

I just don't know.

 

[hrotha]

The conspiracy theory was that Froome got shadow banned by the UCI and the crash was a PR exercise to cover him.

Which, again, clashes with the idea that Froome was protected

Even assuming it was a shadow ban, there's infinitely easier ways to fake an injury than faking a catastrophic crash that leaves you bed-ridden in an actual hospital. It doesn't make any sense. It's completely ridiculous

The main point about the people who might scream 'conspiracy theorist' and dismiss questions about the Dauphiné crash immediately is they don't quite grasp in this instance that Froome is a proven liar.

I have no trouble grasping that Froome is a proven liar. That's obvious. However, the people peddling conspiracy theories fail to satisfactorily answer the single most important question to every conspiracy theory: why though

 

[Extinction]

Which, again, clashes with the idea that Froome was protected

Even assuming it was a shadow ban, there's infinitely easier ways to fake an injury than faking a catastrophic crash that leaves you bed-ridden in an actual hospital. It doesn't make any sense. It's completely ridiculous

I have no trouble grasping that Froome is a proven liar. That's obvious. However, the people peddling conspiracy theories fail to satisfactorily answer the single most important question to every conspiracy theory: why though

How about it gave Ineos and the UCI the perfect excuse to be done with him, a way out to save face. He may have been protected, but everything has its limit and after Armstrong the sport could not afford another scandal involving its marquis rider. Rackham: "The conspiracy theory was that Froome got shadow banned by the UCI and the crash was a PR exercise to cover him."

 

[meat puppet]

Lemme try a hot take.

Regardless of all that happened before and after, doping and otherwise, Froome actually crashed heavily and broke his femur in a relatively complicated manner while also being 34 or so (can't be bothered to check exact birthday).

Ineos management 1) could monitor his condition and likelihood of recovery throughout the process, 2) were hellbent on winning GTs, and 3) putting 1+1 together they concluded he was now less of a priority at the team. They ultimately let him go.

Froome was smart enough to get paid after that, or someone else was dumb enough to pay, or both, but that's another story.

 

[Scarponi]

'Whoever was king post-Lance Armstrong was going to get destroyed' – Luke Rowe explains suspicion during era of Chris Froome's Tour de France success

Former Sky teammate claims fallout from Armstrong's doping scandals meant sport 'collapsed for a while'

www.cyclingnews.com

Are you f-ing kidding me. Froome's real level is what we have seens since his "accident", which I would not at all be surprised was rigged. I want to see the hospital records. Do they even exist?

Not the fact every rider he competed against had previous doping infractions or links to doctors? But magically Froome was clean hehe

 

[topcat]

Which, again, clashes with the idea that Froome was protected

Even assuming it was a shadow ban, there's infinitely easier ways to fake an injury than faking a catastrophic crash that leaves you bed-ridden in an actual hospital. It doesn't make any sense. It's completely ridiculous

I have no trouble grasping that Froome is a proven liar. That's obvious. However, the people peddling conspiracy theories fail to satisfactorily answer the single most important question to every conspiracy theory: why though

Froome was doped to the gills and was and is a liar.
Was he protected by the UCI in his glory days? I don't know.
Was he too big to fall? Yes and no. Money/lawyers could make a positive go away if there was even a hint of grey. But, if he tested positive for some serious smack and it became public, he would have been taken down.
Was the crash legit? Yes, and there was no way he was ever going to reach his top level again.
Why is he being discussed now? I guess people are bored but we'll have bigger fish to fry in July.
June 12, 2019: Froome crashes and his career is effectively over.
One month later he gets retrospectively awarded the 2011 vuelta (his first and last gt win).
The rise and fall of Froome: it's a story of passion and betrayal, of truth and love.
It's one for the scrapbook.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Froome was doped to the gills and was and is a liar.
Was he protected by the UCI in his glory days? I don't know.
Was he too big to fall? Yes and no. Money/lawyers could make a positive go away if there was even a hint of grey. But, if he tested positive for some serious smack and it became public, he would have been taken down.
Was the crash legit? Yes, and there was no way he was ever going to reach his top level again.
Why is he being discussed now? I guess people are bored but we'll have bigger fish to fry in July.
June 12, 2019: Froome crashes and his career is effectively over.
One month later he gets retrospectively awarded the 2011 vuelta (his first and last gt win).
The rise and fall of Froome: it's a story of passion and betrayal, of truth and love.
It's one for the scrapbook.

The most interesting is the symmetry of his results. After his crash he got back to where he belonged before 2011 Vuelta: no significant results at the highest level, contrasting so much with his 2011-2018 prime.

 

[Extinction]

Froome was doped to the gills and was and is a liar.
Was he protected by the UCI in his glory days? I don't know.
Was he too big to fall? Yes and no. Money/lawyers could make a positive go away if there was even a hint of grey. But, if he tested positive for some serious smack and it became public, he would have been taken down.
Was the crash legit? Yes, and there was no way he was ever going to reach his top level again.
Why is he being discussed now? I guess people are bored but we'll have bigger fish to fry in July.
June 12, 2019: Froome crashes and his career is effectively over.
One month later he gets retrospectively awarded the 2011 vuelta (his first and last gt win).
The rise and fall of Froome: it's a story of passion and betrayal, of truth and love.
It's one for the scrapbook.

Because everyone should have known this, but not somebody signing 5 million per year or whatever it was? How can Team Israel have been so stupid in signing him? Did they not demand the hospital reports and so not have known what Ineos "knew". How could a team invest millions in a rider with his supposed clinical record and being old to boot? It makes no sense. Either they were completely naive or something doesn't add up. As for the UCI, we give you the Vuelta, you never come to the surface again.

 

[iceblink]

Froome was obviously clean, he was pretty *** without the sky train and barely did 6+ watts for an "unusual" prolonged period. If he was on anything more than UCI "allowed" TUEs and an asthma sniffer then it was a shocking attempt at cheating.

This forum has such a hate-boner against the Brits they probably think Newton was "doped" to write the Principia, or Maxwell was moto doping to discover electromagnetic waves or Darwin was on blood transfusions on The Beagle

 

[meat puppet]

What about Hume and Ricardo? They were the worst, after all.

 

[red_flanders]

The most interesting is the symmetry of his results. After his crash he got back to where he belonged before 2011 Vuelta: no significant results at the highest level, contrasting so much with his 2011-2018 prime.

Got paid for a last contract, didn't want to take any more risks and blow his income, rode around Europe laughing all the way to the bank. Provided drivel explanations about his form and how he was back to his former level, then more drivel, only making sense to the most credulous of his fans.

Don't know what else fits what we've seen from him over the years.

 

[Red Rick]

What's easily forgotten is that Froome was already in a slow decline before his crash so by 2020 he already wouldn't be winning GTs without the crash, so he probably just gave up altogether.

 

[Netserk]

What's easily forgotten is that Froome was already in a slow decline before his crash so by 2020 he already wouldn't be winning GTs without the crash, so he probably just gave up altogether.

I think 2018 is hard to judge with the crashes, and I had him as favourite for the Tour before his Dauphiné crash in 2019.

 

[Red Rick]

I think 2018 is hard to judge with the crashes, and I had him as favourite for the Tour before his Dauphiné crash in 2019.

I think even in 2017 his edge was already pretty thin. Him being a favorite for 2019 just shows how diabolical that field was.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Yeah I mean he barely beat Uran by less than a minute. He wasn’t very good; it was just a historically weak time period without top end talent and probably a lot more hesitancy by the peloton to dope in a big way immediately post Armstrong and Contador.

 

[danielovichdk2]

The conspiracy theory was that Froome got shadow banned by the UCI and the crash was a PR exercise to cover him.

There is some truth to this story I believe. I do not for one minute believe his crash was so bad he lost all the power. Absolutely not.

As for the UCI, it's an interesting point, because like others has mention just as myself, the money flowing into cycling is making UCI and all sponsors highly alert on who comes out on the positive (doping). It's not affordable to have a top tier rider go down in a doping scandal.

Froome is off the junk, UCI covered him for the sake of Ineos, which laid him off due to known fact that he doped by a lot.

I can't wait for Sir Bradley to spill the beans in a book, he will take it all down from the Sky era. It will probably be Lance's entry back into WT cycling.

 

[ontheroad]

There is some truth to this story I believe. I do not for one minute believe his crash was so bad he lost all the power. Absolutely not.

As for the UCI, it's an interesting point, because like others has mention just as myself, the money flowing into cycling is making UCI and all sponsors highly alert on who comes out on the positive (doping). It's not affordable to have a top tier rider go down in a doping scandal.

Froome is off the junk, UCI covered him for the sake of Ineos, which laid him off due to known fact that he doped by a lot.

I can't wait for Sir Bradley to spill the beans in a book, he will take it all down from the Sky era. It will probably be Lance's entry back into WT cycling.

The year is 2032 and former TDF winner Bradley Wiggins in discussion with former disgraced cyclist Lance Armstrong reflects back on his time at Team Sky. He says that sometime soon he will have his say and that it will shock a few people!

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I think even in 2017 his edge was already pretty thin. Him being a favorite for 2019 just shows how diabolical that field was.

He would've had a good chance if he had not been weaker than Bernal and Thomas (then they would've probably been his super doms). From 2020 on it's a different story OFC.

 

[Red Rick]

He would've had a good chance if he had not been weaker than Bernal and Thomas (then they would've probably been his super doms). From 2020 on it's a different story OFC.

Yeah the Tour being the weakest this century would help immeasurably

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Yeah the Tour being the weakest this century would help immeasurably

Yup 2019 was weak. Quintana regrets he hadn't been born a few years later.

 

[Red Rick]

Yup 2019 was weak. Quintana regrets he hadn't been born a few years later.

Probably the only year the Tour was the weakest of the 3 GTs.

 

[Unchained]

How much did Froome lose today?