Is Philippe Gilbert Doping?

[martinvickers]

That barely falls under the non-denial denial category.

Oh dear.

The non-denial denial. BING and as they say O.

You'd think at least these boys would have the poker face to say, "no, I don' f***ing dope" - but maybe it's best they can't...

 

[Alpechraxler]

What is a performance enhancing dose of prednisone ? 12.5 ? 25 ? 50 ? 100 ?

 

[arjanh]

IF TD is the source, that's quite interesting as I don't recall an active rider ever calling out another active rider. More cracks in the omerta, the peloton slowly decomposing?

Anyway, if Dekker's the source, +1 to him (and Garmin, I guess).

Yes. He's moving further and further away from the arrogant a-hole he used to be in his doping days.

And it's good this stuff comes out into the open. It's a plus that you're not allowed to race for a week after using a cortisones-TUE. It would be much better, though, to completely do away with TUEs altogether...

 

[The Hitch]

Imagine your partner asks "Honey, did you cheat on me?"

You can say you didn't. Your partner might still be suspicious if they have good reason to doubt you.

You can say it's up to them to decide, using their reasoning skills. Congratulations: you're single.

That's a brilliant way to put it

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Gilbert says little or nothing:
Omerta? No Silence Lotto!

 

[blackcat]

is philippe gilbert doping?

is this actually a question or rhetorical?

every other rider who has swept the ardennes and stolen Jackson's TM threepeat, would lurve to be asked the same "question".


I raise the "non-denial denail(sic)", with the "non-question question"

is philippe gilbert doping really in question?

 

[blackcat]

But a non-denial denial has to be the stupidest thing to do since everybody really can read between the lines. It's the closest thing to admitting in stead of admitting itself

but how about Ulrich's answer to people wanting their gallon of blood out of his arm.

"if people cannot see the truth for themselves..." words to effect of.


you want gilbert prone and martyring and 67 virgins in heaven? what do you want?

 

[The Hitch]

is philippe gilbert doping?

is this actually a question or rhetorical?

every other rider who has swept the ardennes and stolen Jackson's TM threepeat, would lurve to be asked the same "question".


I raise the "non-denial denail(sic)", with the "non-question question"

is philippe gilbert doping really in question?

Every time Gilbert wins a race harmonn says it's great because gilbert is one of the most outspoken anti dopers in the sport.

 

[blackcat]

Every time Gilbert wins a race harmonn says it's great because gilbert is one of the most outspoken anti wipers in the sport.

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[arjanh]

is philippe gilbert doping?

is this actually a question or rhetorical?

every other rider who has swept the ardennes and stolen Jackson's TM threepeat, would lurve to be asked the same "question".


I raise the "non-denial denail(sic)", with the "non-question question"

is philippe gilbert doping really in question?

I dunno. If I were on the juice, I sure wouldn't pull off stunts like Gilbert did in '11, and then fail completely until the World's in '12. That's the best way to raise more than a few eyebrows.

 

[Mich78BEL]

So now that the Dutch (media) have 'destroyed' all of their own (past) champions they are going after those of other countries.

 

[Lanark]

So now that the Dutch (media) have 'destroyed' all of their own (past) champions they are going after those of other countries.

You almost sound like that is a bad thing.

 

[LaFlorecita]

You almost sound like that is a bad thing.

Well for a lot of people it's quite annoying to say the least

 

[Pentacycle]

So now that the Dutch (media) have 'destroyed' all of their own (past) champions they are going after those of other countries.

That's a good observation, but it was inevitable. They've probably run out of good stories in the Netherlands, and are now looking for foreign connections.

The Dutch medias' agendas(and especially NRC's) are very unclear to say the least.

Ah well, equal treatment is a good thing.

 

[arjanh]

So now that the Dutch (media) have 'destroyed' all of their own (past) champions they are going after those of other countries.

I'd like to see them give other sports (like track and field and speed skating) the same treatment.

 

[Mich78BEL]

You almost sound like that is a bad thing.

Right or wrong they are hypocrites.

 

[Lanark]

Right or wrong they are hypocrites.

Who are? Why?

Do you think it's a bad thing that Gilbert get's exposed?

 

[Mich78BEL]

Who are? Why?

Do you think it's a bad thing that Gilbert get's exposed?

Has he been exposed? Right now i don't see a real case.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

I dunno. If I were on the juice, I sure wouldn't pull off stunts like Gilbert did in '11, and then fail completely until the World's in '12. That's the best way to raise more than a few eyebrows.

Cyclist ain't normal people.

Still think BMC was asked to take the juicing level down a notch or two in '12 which affected most of Gilbert's season.

Gilbert back to full "strength" this season? Lets evaluate after AGR.

 

[roundabout]

His old chum is back as a soigneur for Sanremo.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

His old chum is back as a soigneur for Sanremo.

who would that be?

 

[roundabout]

Freddy Viaene.

 

[peterst6906]

who would that be?

Good question.

The BMC site says the soigneurs are **** Leenaert, Stefano Rubin and Freddy Viaene.

No sign of Vansevenant or Schoutteten, who I immediately thought of when I read that.

 

[peterst6906]

Freddy Viaene.

I must need a memory jog. Has Viaene been implicated in drug carrying or something in the past?

EDIT: don't worry, tracked down the old thread on here:

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=3077

 

[The Hitch]

I'd like to see them give other sports (like track and field and speed skating) the same treatment.

Small fry, small fry.

Go after the sports where people get money and fame. But knowing the media they will probably go after bobsleigh or something.