Isaac Del Toro thread

[AlfaLum]

14th win of the season and 8th one-day race won! King of under 200 km races.

He should be happy this race wasnt one kilometer longer.

 

[Cycling111]

When someone mentions my opinions, I would appreciate it if they read the entire message .

In my message, I predict that Del Toro will win all these races for Italy. Rubbing in the Giro di Emilia thread that he won is absurd when I myself said he would win. LOL

The message wasn't about his chances of winning this week. Should read the full messages. Thanks.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

He should be happy this race wasnt one kilometer longer.

At 200 km he would get stomach issues (like in WC), hunger knock, ebola or whatever...but he's the king under 200 km.

 

[Lequack]

So is he the next Eddie Merckx? Did anyone in the past have a better rookies season than Del Toro?

 

[Cycling111]

So is he the next Eddie Merckx? Did anyone in the past have a better rookies season than Del Toro?

This isn't Del Toro's rookie season, it's his second. Pogacar won the Tour in his second year.

In his Rookie year, Del Toro won a stage in TDU and Asturias. Pogacar was on the podium at the Vuelta with three mountain stages, Algarve, California.

The one who's in Rookie's year is Brennan; I think he'll also beat Del Toro's 2024.
But It'll be difficult to do that in his second year.

 

[Cookster15]

Google AI Overview tells me this when I ask is isaac del toro a neo pro:

Yes, Isaac del Toro is a neo-pro, having started his professional cycling career in 2024 with UAE Team Emirates and immediately making a significant impact

As Toby replied to me I doubt we could say he is still a neo pro. But he isn't far off.

The way he just won Giro dell'Emilia bridging the gap to Pidcock from the elite chasing group on San Luca was very impressive.

 

[Lequack]

And he mostly lose the Giro because of tactics, he was clearly the strongest.

 

[Red Rick]

And he mostly lose the Giro because of tactics, he was clearly the strongest.

If he was clearly the strongest than he's also clearly the dumbest rider to ever race at the pro level.

 

[YavorD]

And he mostly lose the Giro because of tactics, he was clearly the strongest.

I somehow doubt that. He was really struggling on the tough multi mountain stages (Finestre before Finestre wasn't tough).
Put Recta Contador and I think he is a minute behind Carapaz on the top.
And I don't think he was all that strong on Finestre either. So far this season he is giving all the impressions of a reborn Valverde.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

If he was clearly the strongest than he's also clearly the dumbest rider to ever race at the pro level.

Came here to see how Red Rick would disrespect del Toro after today's win. (true story) Wasn't disqppointed.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

I somehow doubt that. He was really struggling on the tough multi mountain stages (Finestre before Finestre wasn't tough).
Put Recta Contador and I think he is a minute behind Carapaz on the top.
And I don't think he was all that strong on Finestre either. So far this season he is giving all the impressions of a reborn Valverde.

Hey, no Clinic talk...

 

[Cookster15]

If he was clearly the strongest than he's also clearly the dumbest rider to ever race at the pro level.

A bit harsh? The strongest rider not winning is hardly rare, in fact that is the beauty of cycling. And he’s only 21.

 

[AlfaLum]

By now I would argue that he is the third best rider in the world for the harder hilly one day races in the world.

And I think he is top-5 when it comes to riding GCs in one week and GTs, but i guess that is still highly debatable based on the evidence so far.

Anyway amazing performances by Del Toro this year and for me in terms of attractiveness it is one of the most entertaining riders to Watch. If, like Pogacar, he manages to build up his endurance the next seasons he will win many big races.

 

[Red Rick]

Came here to see how Red Rick would disrespect del Toro after today's win. (true story) Wasn't disqppointed.

It's not a disrespect to Del Toro. It's me deservedly ridiculing the idea that he was the strongest rider in the Giro when he got dropped on each of the 3 hardest raced big climbs of the race.

I think it's actually less disrepectful to think he was 3rd best in the race than to think he was a complete moron. For the life of me I cannot understand the line of reasoning that goes almost like : "He was winning the Giro then he decided to just throw it away for the lulz, he's my favorite rider now"

If anything it gets super hard to like Del Toro simply based on the insanity of the hype he's getting way before he's earned it. And then even the niche he's shown to be truly world class it any chance of excitement is taken away by the fact that he's on UAE so he'll never race against Pogacar.

 

[Salvarani]

I dont need salt when cooking later after reading that.

 

[Peyroteo94]

It's not a disrespect to Del Toro. It's me deservedly ridiculing the idea that he was the strongest rider in the Giro when he got dropped on each of the 3 hardest raced big climbs of the race.

I think it's actually less disrepectful to think he was 3rd best in the race than to think he was a complete moron. For the life of me I cannot understand the line of reasoning that goes almost like : "He was winning the Giro then he decided to just throw it away for the lulz, he's my favorite rider now"

If anything it gets super hard to like Del Toro simply based on the insanity of the hype he's getting way before he's earned it. And then even the niche he's shown to be truly world class it any chance of excitement is taken away by the fact that he's on UAE so he'll never race against Pogacar.

Funny how you didn't mention how many times he gained time on the Giro winner.