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told you, they should have gifted than Canadian championship to Houle

 

[aruipksni]

told you, they should have gifted than Canadian championship to Houle

they should have sent him to the tour again, he could have repeated his 9th place from last year.

 

[Rou]

Some boycotts and demonstrations are expected in the Vuelta against this team.
There was a little booing in the team presentation already.

 

[Leadbelly]

Well that's a bummer.

I'm not sure I entirely buy the "money" reason. Adams and maybe more pertinently in this case Premier Tech aren't bottomless pits, but with Gee being the sole big Canadian name now with Woods retiring, I'm sure they would have pushed the boat out if asked. Plus with it currently proving difficult to attract riders, you need to keep hold of the good ones that you do have already.

It does bring into question the continuation of Premier Tech as a sponsor. I'm not sure when their contract ends (maybe they have a get-out clause!?), but are Cote/Pickrell/Houle/Cannonball worth the X millions they pay to sponsor the team? and I'm not aware of any big talents further back down the Canadian conveyer belt.

Looks like there could be some tough times ahead for the team one way or another.

 

[aruipksni]

i don't know , but from the past experience with IPT riders, the more their salary is raised , so their ROI reduced. so perhaps the team should really stay more focused on young talents and their quite successful development team, then spend lots of money in order to get very little in return. so perhaps the World tour is not for them, and Adams can still support a ProcConti team for sure, without any other sponsors, like he did in the past, and it might only do good for the team.

 

[hayneplane]

Not sure if it’s a deliberate policy or not but I have noticed the team always being referred to as IPT on the TNT coverage of the Vuelta when previously I am fairly sure they were usually referred to by their full team name.

 

[Netserk]

Let's hope the police is better prepared tomorrow.

 

[Leadbelly]

Not sure if it’s a deliberate policy or not but I have noticed the team always being referred to as IPT on the TNT coverage of the Vuelta when previously I am fairly sure they were usually referred to by their full team name.

I know Hatch regularly does it. Others too now?

Tbf though I type IPT quite a lot, why press 19(?) keys when 3 will do.

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It didn't look like the biggest field of entrants (done at short notice?), but it could be an important win for Tene's future in 2026

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Good start to the Vuelta for the team. Only the Vine stage when they weren't in the break was a disappointment.

 

[Gwbert]

The official RTVE broadcaster is calling them Premier Trek and dropping the Israel off i noticed. Seemed pretty deliberate.

 

[jono]

The official RTVE broadcaster is calling them Premier Trek and dropping the Israel off i noticed. Seemed pretty deliberate.

I should hope not!

 

[Gwbert]

I should hope not!

Been a long day 😂

 

[Basecase]

Will there be more protests at the Vuelta in the next 2 weeks?

Are IPT's days numbered?

With all the bad press, might they fold this winter? Contractually, could they do that?

Must be a bad vibe in the team at present......

 

[pastronef]

Will there be more protests at the Vuelta in the next 2 weeks?

Are IPT's days numbered?

With all the bad press, might they fold this winter? Contractually, could they do that?

Must be a bad vibe in the team at present......

probably they're thinking of changing the team name? maybe doing like HIGH-ROAD team who kept riding using T-Mobile money but under a different name
in the Basque country tomorrow they'll find Palestine flags everywhere

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

in the Basque country tomorrow they'll find Palestine flags everywhere

It looks as though the Palestinian flags today were in one group, whether by their own preference or at police insistence I wouldn't know, which meant it was relatively easily controlled, and negligible impact on any rider.

A tightly grouped, fast peloton is probably to the benefit of those that would be a target.

 

[RedheadDane]

Will there be more protests at the Vuelta in the next 2 weeks?

Are IPT's days numbered?

With all the bad press, might they fold this winter? Contractually, could they do that?

Must be a bad vibe in the team at present......

According to Fuglsang, it's not actually the Israeli state who pays the team, but Sylvan Adams*, and he just - as Fuglsang so nicely put it - "Put 'Israel' on the jerseys... for some reason."

Thanks to @aruipksni for name-dropping him in another thread.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

According to Fuglsang, it's not actually the Israeli state who pays the team, but Sylvan Adams*, and he just - as Fuglsang so nicely put it - "Put 'Israel' on the jerseys... for some reason."

Thanks to @aruipksni for name-dropping him in another thread.

I think that was generally known. Maybe not by protestors.

 

[aruipksni]

I think that was generally known. Maybe not by protestors.

it's also the same for Bahrain and UAE (they do have co-sponsor). it's basically crazy rich patriotic business people who are crazy about cycling. the teams are not held by the governments. even Astana wasn't held by Kazazian, but it was financed by different offices in the government, until they stop the finance.

in IPT case they inherit the name from the previous continental team ICA (later ISN) , founded by private Israelis in order to promote Israeli riders, the current name was given after Sylvan Adams bought the Katyusha team.

 

[RedheadDane]

it's also the same for Bahrain and UAE (they do have co-sponsor). it's basically crazy rich patriotic business people who are crazy about cycling.

But the funny bit is that in this particular case, the crazy rich person is.. Canadian...

 

[jono]

But the funny bit is that in this particular case, the crazy rich person is.. Canadian...

Dual citizen, lives in Israel. Also Masters 65-69 past world champion, which is hilarious.

Even if it's a private citizen that is paying to put Israel on the jersey (the reality is a bit more complicated than that) it is obvious what the target of the protest is to us and also the 99.5% of people that don't know about the ownership structure of UCI teams.

Not saying anyone should or shouldn't agree with these protests but the splitting of hairs here is pointless.

 

[Netserk]

it's also the same for Bahrain and UAE (they do have co-sponsor). it's basically crazy rich patriotic business people who are crazy about cycling. the teams are not held by the governments. even Astana wasn't held by Kazazian, but it was financed by different offices in the government, until they stop the finance.

in IPT case they inherit the name from the previous continental team ICA (later ISN) , founded by private Israelis in order to promote Israeli riders, the current name was given after Sylvan Adams bought the Katyusha team.

UAE is financed by the sovereign wealth fund.

 

[Samamba]

It looks as though the Palestinian flags today were in one group, whether by their own preference or at police insistence I wouldn't know, which meant it was relatively easily controlled, and negligible impact on any rider.

A tightly grouped, fast peloton is probably to the benefit of those that would be a target.

Apart from the time they almost crashed a few riders of course...

Also these kind of things are orchestrated by groups (not by the police). 90% of the guys standing there with flags don't even know what cycling is.

They can wave "their" flag as much as they want, but it's going to go wrong at some point, like it almost did today. And it won't even be Israel riders they are taking out.

 

[Netserk]

Apart from the time they almost crashed a few riders of course...

Also these kind of things are orchestrated by groups (not by the police). 90% of the guys standing there with flags don't even know what cycling is.

They can wave "their" flag as much as they want, but it's going to go wrong at some point, like it almost did today. And it won't even be Israel riders they are taking out.

The fiery, but mostly peaceful protest today did apparently cause one rider to crash in the peloton.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Apart from the time they almost crashed a few riders of course...

Also these kind of things are orchestrated by groups (not by the police). 90% of the guys standing there with flags don't even know what cycling is.

They can wave "their" flag as much as they want, but it's going to go wrong at some point, like it almost did today. And it won't even be Israel riders they are taking out.

"almost crashing" is pretty much the definition of "negligible impact", not an exception to it.

Neither of us know whether the pro-Palestinian flag wavers were grouped together at that corner by their own determination, or whether the police brought that about: either way, the fact that there was an identifiable point at which a disruption might have been attempted made a concentration of security possible, that thankfully meant there was minimal impact.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

The fiery, but mostly peaceful protest today did apparently cause one rider to crash in the peloton.

Wasn't aware of that: that limits my "negligible impact" comment. Do you know who and whether he was hurt in the fall?

 

[Samamba]

The fiery, but mostly peaceful protest today did apparently cause one rider to crash in the peloton.

Like I said, the people who stand there in groups with those flags have no idea what cycling is and thus also have no idea how dangerous it can be. It's hilarious how in the Tour they always do campaigns to make people aware to not be on the road or be safe with their attributes but now everyone is quiet cause everyone is scared to say anything.