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johnymax

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The peloton didn't race at full speed because the rider who crashed was in the leader's jersey. That's an unwritten rule of road cycling. I don't think it mattered much if it was Rogla or anybody else.

Ironically it was Bora that didn't wait for him when he crashed while leading the race on the last stage of Paris-Nice 2021. But he crashed 3 times on that day, so it was a little too much.
 
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Logic-is-your-friend said:
Who were you a fan of last season
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The same, more or less! I could write an essay! :joycat:

I miss the madman Lopez!

Wout is mostly cx because of how the way he moves on a bike looks graceful like ballet or he's flying like a gazelle. Probably has to do with his lathed long body lines. It's a visceral enjoyment. They don't give the same enjoyment in road cycling since it's more static.
 
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Berniece said:
Bora said it wasn't severe at all. That it were only bruises and shallow injury on the surface.
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What else are they going to say? He is in a lot of pain but will still race because of the money/ambition?

I mean I understand he is not severely injured. But you have seen the fall, and you could see the wound and it takes some determination to fight on in such state. But don't worry, I'm not saying Remco wouldn't do the same...
 
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Berniece said:
Good that he can still learn
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Tony Martin aka Der Panzerwagen from the retirement about Roglič:

"In fact, Roglic's training is the thing Martin believes sets him apart from all others. "I have never seen another athlete or teammate train so hard and with such determination. When he does his intervals on the mountain during the altitude training camp, it's unbelievable," Martin recalls, although as he notes that's not without sacrifice. "He pushes himself to the limit and is extremely hard on himself - and also on his family. Because he invests a lot of time in training camps between races and is only at home a little. This is not always easy in private life."

In contrast to his competition and training mentality, he is relaxed in private or at the dinner table after the race, drinks a beer in the evening and is very grateful and appreciative of his teammates for their efforts," Martin concludes. "At the end of the season there were also gifts for the helpers provided throughout the year. In that respect, he is really a great captain and I was happy to sacrifice myself for him."

Source: https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...es-the-immense-determination-of-primoz-roglic
 
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bNator said:
What else are they going to say? He is in a lot of pain but will still race because of the money/ambition?

I mean I understand he is not severely injured. But you have seen the fall, and you could see the wound and it takes some determination to fight on in such state. But don't worry, I'm not saying Remco wouldn't do the same...
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First of all, no one mentioned Remco. Not sure what that has to do with any of it. The injury looked very similar to the one of Remco in the Vuelta of 2022.

Secondly, I've indeed seen his injuries, it seemed mostly bruises and scratches on the surface. Obviously he'll feel this in the following days, and this will definitely take away his chances of winning this year. I don't see him winning anymore due to this fall. But that doesn't mean the injury was more than it is. A small injury can also stop your chances of winning.
 
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Mostly that *** was spread by a non Rogla fans. As if the peloton would not wait, then their favourite would still stand a chance.

It's the usual.
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I think attacking because a rival went down is not very nice. But on the other hand, if it was the plan to attack on a certain climb, because you feel that is the best chance for you to win or gain time, that you should not have to wait because a rival is unlucky.
What about a mechanical? If Roglic would have had a broken derailleur or a flat tire, would it have been ok to attack? Imagine Van der Poel having to wait in Paris Roubaix because Van Aert had a puncture. It could easily be exploited as well. We know a certain rival will attack on climb X, so just fake a mechanical and he won't be able to.
I think a rival being unlucky shouldn't result in you being unlucky (due to missing an opportunity you were counting on to increase your chances).
 
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This argument about not attacking the race leader goes back a long way (Froome used it, I seem to remember at least on one occasion). Personally, I think if the guy is already in the lead, why should he have even more of an advantage? If it's ok for anyone else in the peloton, then it should also go for the race leader. If there's a big crash and lots of guys are down, then sure slow down, that's common sense.
 
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