Jalabert positive for EPO in 1998 TDF

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

You can check it by yourself in the usada files :
http://d3epuodzu3wuis.cloudfront.net/Annex+1.pdf

In 1998 (pages 3/4/5) : many EPO positives (pink cells), a few negatives (the green cells, in the last week I guess)

In 1999, much lesser positives, seems as the peloton was quite EPO-clean especially after the first week, except from wonderboy... Most of the riders took EPO before the TdF, but didn't bring anything in France.

Thanks, good job, any names available with those pinkey colours?

We are 15 years further, fukc, I am getting old, and now Jaja is pinged? Five days before the Tour starts.

Jalabert was/is a clown. The Museeuw of stage racing.

 

[Bexon30]

Ahh, I see my error, it is saline water that does not freeze at zero...so Jaja's tears will stay wet

I will be watching to see Jaja try to get out of this also. The sad thing is that I loved to watch him ride a bike back then.

Me too! Sad thing is that period very rarely saw a clean winner. It makes me laugh that we have Ulrich/JaJa on the eve of the Tour. Who next...?

 

[pmcg76]

You can check it by yourself in the usada files :
http://d3epuodzu3wuis.cloudfront.net/Annex+1.pdf

In 1998 (pages 3/4/5) : many EPO positives (pink cells), a few negatives (the green cells, in the last week I guess)

In 1999, much lesser positives, seems as the peloton was quite EPO-clean especially after the first week, except from wonderboy... Most of the riders took EPO before the TdF, but didn't bring anything in France.

What were the testing criteria again? Stage winner, yellow jersey wearer and one random each day? Or was it first 3 on each stage, anyone know the exact selection process for testing during the Tour of 98.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Me too! Sad thing is that period very rarely saw a clean winner. It makes me laugh that we have Ulrich/JaJa on the eve of the Tour. Who next...?

Coppi.....

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

The sad thing is that I loved to watch him ride a bike back then.

You serious? I liked Jaja getting beaten by Wilfried Nelissen time after time but Jaja the stage racer was a bit overdone.

He was even more ridiculous than the pharmaceutical enhanced moron you like so much.

 

[AngusW]

Me too! Sad thing is that period very rarely saw a clean winner. It makes me laugh that we have Ulrich/JaJa on the eve of the Tour. Who next...?

Bettini

10 Chars

 

[hrotha]

Serves him right. Look, I understand perfectly well that riders would dope in the 90s (or the 00s or the 10s for that matter), but Jaja had the nerve to go in front of an official commission and lie through his teeth at a time when he could help the sport by finally confessing. Hell, at this point any top rider from the 90s could just say "Duh, of course I doped" and not even get that much heat. There's no excuse for the ongoing lies from people for whom the SOL has run out anyway.

 

[DirtyWorks]

What were the testing criteria again? Stage winner, yellow jersey wearer and one random each day? Or was it first 3 on each stage, anyone know the exact selection process for testing during the Tour of 98.

I don't know the exact process, but more importantly, just because GC riders are chosen for samples doesn't mean they'll be tested for EPO. EPO tests are still expensive and infrequently run on race-day samples.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

You serious? I liked Jaja getting beaten by Wilfried Nelissen time after time but Jaja the stage racer was a bit overdone.

He was even more ridiculous than the pharmaceutical enhanced moron you like so much.

??? And who is that?

As for Jaja, I liked watching him race...and if I am clear on the rules of opinion, I get to have it.

Lastly, you need more fiber in your diet, you're a bit touchy...

 

[Zweistein]

Bettini

10 Chars

And he rode on Mapei as did such greats like:

Tony Rominger
Johan Museeuw
Franco Ballerini
Abraham Olano
Andrea Tafi
Frank Vandenbroucke
Pavel Tonkov
Frank Vandenbroucke (He get mentioned twice he was that good. Could have won the vuelta in 99 if he knew how good his form as.)
Michele Bartoli


Also, Mapei didn't quit sponsoring the team because they weren't riding well. The sponsor pulled out because it was tired of all the problems it had with doping.

 

[Ferminal]

I think AngusW means a Bettini admission/revelation. Unlikely with the Fuentes bags done and dusted.

 

[Zweistein]

I think AngusW means a Bettini admission/revelation. Unlikely with the Fuentes bags done and dusted.

Yeah, failed at reading comprehension on that one.

 

[Ripper]

Well, not that the reporting is that well done (typical CN these days ), but I still love this line ...

"There was no test to detect EPO in 1998, and almost all urine samples tested six years after the fact came up positive for EPO. Names of other riders whose samples tested positive have not yet been released"

What a total shocker!

 

[offbyone]

The french should focus on their current riders.

 

[jw1979]

We all know by now what was going on at that time, but to me, it's quite disturbing that Jalabert and whoever else is named on July 18th will have no opportunity to request a B sample be tested.

This is a joke. The riders get sh.t on endlessly, as if they are the ones orchestrating the show. You may as well make a big deal out of Hulk Hogan using steroids and take away his belts on July 18th too, it would be equally ridiculous.

The hypocrisy of it all is absurd. The pharmaceutical industries' tentacles touch us all, when will we stop pretending?

 

[Race Radio]

Well, not that the reporting is that well done (typical CN these days ), but I still love this line ...

"There was no test to detect EPO in 1998, and almost all urine samples tested six years after the fact came up positive for EPO. Names of other riders whose samples tested positive have not yet been released"

What a total shocker!

It is not correct.

98 and 99 were tested and the positives were certainly higher in 98 but IIRC it was not over 50%.

 

[Le breton]

It is not correct.

98 and 99 were tested and the positives were certainly higher in 98 but IIRC it was not over 50%.

I just went over the list (USADA, ANNEX I) given pg 3 of this thread.

51 useable tests (out of 96) , 9 clean one, 1 ambiguous. 41 POSITIVE

 

[Gregga]

I just went over the list (USADA, ANNEX I) given pg 3 of this thread.

51 useable tests (out of 96) , 9 clean one, 1 ambiguous. 41 POSITIVE

I was about to write the same, many samples were not useable for retesting in 2004. The difference between 1999 et 1998 is blatant, using EPO all along the 1999 TdF was quite a challenge, maybe only Wonderboy did it.

 

[Race Radio]

I just went over the list (USADA, ANNEX I) given pg 3 of this thread.

51 useable tests (out of 96) , 9 clean one, 1 ambiguous. 41 POSITIVE

Wow, 41 positives! That is far more then I remember. Even with the reduction of usable samples that is huge. What was it in 99, I think 16?

 

[blackcat]

41 positive =/= 41 riders.

>1 sample for some riders?

 

[Dazed and Confused]

So Jalabert thinks the latest revelations tarnishes his career/reputation. Well, that sounds wrong to me, rather it exposes him as one big fraud.

There are now two choices for him:

- Continue in the circus as a clown to be called in for a bit of entertainment once in a while or

- help clean up the sport further. This requires the man to step up and deliver all the information about other dopers, teams structures, doping doctors, suppliers etc.

Man or clown.

 

[notrolfsorensen]

41 positive =/= 41 riders.

>1 sample for some riders?

Exactly. The yellow is tested everyday right? Ullrich and Pantani alone would account for almost 15 samples.

 

[webvan]

The latest from the liar : http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme-sur-route/Actualites/Jalabert-je-prends-un-coup/381186

His "I always trusted the team doctors" he said under oath and repeats here is really an insult to everyone's intelligence (hence the leaking of the info no doubt)...after Festina got busted in 1998 he'd have to be the least curious person on earth not to try to find out what was going on in his team...assuming he hadn't questioned it before, but of course he knew full well what was going on. Besides if the riders had to pitch in for the dope at Festina, it's unlikely it would have been any different at Once.

 

[neineinei]

41 positive =/= 41 riders.

>1 sample for some riders?

Six of the positive tests from 1999 were Armstrongs, so presumably some riders have more positives here too. I assume the tests weren't all completely random, and that stage winners and GC leaders were tested more than other riders then too, so there should be several tests of Ullrich and Pantani for instance. If Ullrich was on EPO in 1998 the timing of his "confession" and denial of EPO use is bad, to say the least.

That the commision had the samples and could identify them has been know at least since May 15.

A commission of inquiry for the senate in France will soon be able to put names on the anti-doping samples taken during the 1998 Tour de France, Senator Jean-Jacques PS Lozach said on Wednesday. Former world champion Laurent Jalabert told legislators that he could not be certain that team doctors at ONCE had not administered to him performance enhancing drugs in the 1990s.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2013...says-he-cant-be-certain-he-wasnt-doped_286979

 

[Adamastor]

My thoughts were similar....

Old news. Will he get sanctioned? Of course not, but at least it is official and he is now lumped into the Armstrong corner.

Wonder what Jaja did to upset someone?

...Maybe lie in front of the SEnate few weeks ago...??