kim andersen is not allowed to train him anymore and be sure that jb is focussed on the riders that can do something in a gt and fuglsang has prooven he;s not among those
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hrotha said:I don't like Bruyneel, but to say he should have pulled is ridiculous and just shows you're so blinded by hatred you can't look at the situation objectively.
Your hatred for the guy is warranted, but allowing yourself to be blinded by it isn't doing you any favours. Neither is your ridiculous strawmanning.
ChewbaccaD said:My point is that there is no glory in his victory. His victory, like his wins as a DS, was the product of someone far superior to him mentally and physically.
Machu Picchu said:and yet he found a way to win and take the 'glory', credit to him, it's one of the things that makes sport so entertaining that often it is not the superior who comes out the victor.
ChewbaccaD said:Look, we get it, you like wheelsucking winners. Lots of people like thieves. But Bruyneel is no Robin Hood. No, he is no Robin Hood.
ChewbaccaD said:You can credit him if you want. I don't credit him anything.
Wigwan said:Contador says hi..
More seriously, as much as I hate Brunyeel, he did what he thought was the best for his team and he asked for result, something both Shlecks didn't deliver this year.
personal said:Yes, but with Lance he was almost guaranteed a win in the TdF, or at least a strong performance. With Schlecks... he is not.
simoni said:I'm no particular fan of the Schlecks but that statement is rubbish.
Between them they're about as close a gurantee of a " strong performance" as you can get.
In the last 4 tours:
AS - three consecutive podiums.
FS - two top sizes and podium.
And prestigious stage wins for them both.
Machu Picchu said:Oh but you do, though in this instance it matters little as he got the victory.
simoni said:Now then, I don't much like him either
zigmeister said:My point of the thread, I just don't recall any other managers publicly grilling and taking cheap shots at the top riders for a early performance in such a ridiculous manner. He has back tracked on some of what he said and claims it was just now a tactic to "motivate" them. Genius!
zigmeister said:......
My point of the thread, I just don't recall any other managers publicly grilling and taking cheap shots at the top riders for a early performance in such a ridiculous manner. He has back tracked on some of what he said and claims it was just now a tactic to "motivate" them. Genius!
pugdog said:Oh boy, you apparently didn't hear Gianni Savio go on about Rujano. In earlier days Feretti used to make a hobby of publically insulting his riders.
TechnicalDescent said:I feel the opening post is a little unfair on Bruyneel's recent actions.
pugdog said:Oh boy, you apparently didn't hear Gianni Savio go on about Rujano. In earlier days Feretti used to make a hobby of publically insulting his riders.
zigmeister said:Well, as expected this has somewhat turned into a Brunyeel as a racer thread and bashing.
My point of the thread, I just don't recall any other managers publicly grilling and taking cheap shots at the top riders for a early performance in such a ridiculous manner. He has back tracked on some of what he said and claims it was just now a tactic to "motivate" them. Genius!
Nobody on the Trek/Radioshack squad has actually made the podium at the TDF the past two years except the Schlecks.
I don't recall Cancellera helping out much in the mountains either. So by stating that only Cancellera, and no other riders, including the current 2/3 place finishers of last year's Le Tour, are not guaranteed a place on the team is an immature method and displays poor leadership/management skills.
I remember when Brunyeel was discussed as being the grand tour master and manager to get the Schlecks to win the Tour initially, the hopes were high that he would magically have some tactics and insights due to his experience, that would transform the Schlecks to their dreams and goals. But, that hasn't happened, and some early season poor form has left Brunyeel whining in public like a spoiled child.
El Pistolero said:And then there's Patrick Lefevre.
ElChingon said:Have you ever heard of a DS by the name of Patrick Lefevere? He has pretty much trashed any rider on his team who didn't perform, he especially trashes supposed GT hopeful's who don't perform to the hype they carried in to his team, not to mention if they come up with excuses. Great reading if pretty much every year.
zigmeister said:Well, as expected this has somewhat turned into a Brunyeel as a racer thread and bashing.
My point of the thread, I just don't recall any other managers publicly grilling and taking cheap shots at the top riders for a early performance in such a ridiculous manner. He has back tracked on some of what he said and claims it was just now a tactic to "motivate" them. Genius!
Nobody on the Trek/Radioshack squad has actually made the podium at the TDF the past two years except the Schlecks.
I don't recall Cancellera helping out much in the mountains either. So by stating that only Cancellera, and no other riders, including the current 2/3 place finishers of last year's Le Tour, are not guaranteed a place on the team is an immature method and displays poor leadership/management skills.
I remember when Brunyeel was discussed as being the grand tour master and manager to get the Schlecks to win the Tour initially, the hopes were high that he would magically have some tactics and insights due to his experience, that would transform the Schlecks to their dreams and goals. But, that hasn't happened, and some early season poor form has left Brunyeel whining in public like a spoiled child.
veganrob said:Johan is just frustrated he could not transform a couple eunuchs into GT champions. They were supposed to have one more than the other guy. He should be ****ed.