Jonas Vingegaard: Something is Rotten

[ManicJack]

Of course they may be just as scared of Ayuso, but on paper Remco is a guy who is capable of gaining time on more stages than JA. .

Just as scared? That's funny. Races aren't won on paper.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Just as scared? That's funny. Races aren't won on paper.

I never said they were, but Ayuso has not yet proved himself to be a better rider than Remco.
That obviously doesn't mean he won't do be able to do that during the Vuelta, and I'm not arguing that JV shouldn't also keep a close eye on him either.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

He is on a mission

Holly molly. The fishy era won't end quickly! Thanks God that Teddy is now a classics specialist (who can also climb a bit).

 

[Le breton]

For French readers :

ChronosWatts.com

chronoswatts.com Chronos et simulations en Watts des grandes performances cyclistes dans les ascensions mythiques des Grands Tours.

www.chronoswatts.com

Portoleau just posted his 2023 calculations.
The last few lines of conclusions are quite worrisome.

For non French readers : There are lots of translation programs available and the essential is numbers anyway.

 

[Andy schleck]

The debrief: Analysing that Tour time trial

Making sense of "the best time trial performance ever," and how the competition close the gap by the 2024 Tour.

escapecollective.com

 

[SHAD0W93]

The debrief: Analysing that Tour time trial

Making sense of "the best time trial performance ever," and how the competition close the gap by the 2024 Tour.

escapecollective.com

Here before the 5 minute plus TT win next year.

 

[StryderHells]

He is on a mission

Hang on, he wants to beat the 5x’s record 6x’s? So he wants to win 30 Tours?

 

[Krzysztof_O]

This means he wants to break the record at least 6 times = win it 11 times or more.

I don't know what the actual quote was in Danish, but you can't blame a guy for dreaming.

Yup. It's a good time for Teddy (already multiple Tour winner) to focus on winning all five monuments and other GTs!

 

[proffate]

He needs to win 8 to break the record. The record is 7, not 5. Pathetic thing for him to say unless the .000001% chance he’s not doping is real.

obviously the goal is to do it without being caught. 5 is the record for not being caught.

 

[Nick2413]

obviously the goal is to do it without being caught. 5 is the record for not being caught.

Ah of course, would’ve been redundant for him to clarify that

 

[Le breton]

The debrief: Analysing that Tour time trial

Making sense of "the best time trial performance ever," and how the competition close the gap by the 2024 Tour.

escapecollective.com

I read that article and was not impressed. Lots of words, lack of hard figures.

I would be interested to read other comments about it.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Yes, Pog has to "prepare" better. Wink, wink. Some of Raymundas Rumsas' grandmother's medicine might do the trick. Or some Brazilian candies might be the marginal gain he needs.

 

[Andy schleck]

Yes, Pog has to "prepare" better. Wink, wink. Some of Raymundas Rumsas' grandmother's medicine might do the trick. Or some Brazilian candies might be the marginal gain he needs.

Gianetti and matxin know better about that medicine to help pogacar. Ask ricco.

 

[Cookster15]

I read that article and was not impressed. Lots of words, lack of hard figures.

I would be interested to read other comments about it.

I read it. Reminds me of both Lance and Skyneos (marginal gains).

The lack of responses tells you something about this forum. Tacit endorsement of Jumbo’s doping. Fans are part of why there is a Clinic and cycling has the reputation it does.

 

[SHAD0W93]

I read it. Reminds me of both Lance and Skyneos (marginal gains).

The lack of responses tells you something about this forum. Tacit endorsement of Jumbo’s doping. Fans are part of why there is a Clinic and cycling has the reputation it does.

Wait till the 8 + w/kg occurs next year. I also think he’s going to destroy the TTT and TT at the Vuelta to show killing it in the TT and his team controls the rest of the race is the way to him pulling off the triple.

 

[Bolder]

I read that article and was not impressed. Lots of words, lack of hard figures.

I would be interested to read other comments about it.

I thought it was interesting but not ultimately persuasive to account for JV s itt dominance. That said, I am a believer in marginal gains, but more for the confidence of a rider knowing that his team has left no stone unturned. We’ve heard stories that riders on poorer team have to pay out of pocket for testing and training that wealthy teams provide.

The rally style pace notes, however, seemed like a great idea.

 

[Hugh Januss]

The rally style pace notes, however, seemed like a great idea.

Reading that part of it I found myself thinking that Pogacar doesn't have the personality to ever want to get that OCD about course recon.

 

[Rob5091]

Reading that part of it I found myself thinking that Pogacar doesn't have the personality to ever want to get that OCD about course recon.

Pogacar was happy to talk about how well prepared he was back in 2020 at the Tour's TT but even so at least his team should be that "OCD".

 

[Ripper]

Jonas gonna slap 'em with the wet fish!

 

[Le Doper]

Michel Hessmann suspended by Jumbo-Visma following anti-doping positive

The German rider has been suspended by his team until further notice

www.cyclingnews.com

 

[ElDesordenado]

Michel Hessmann suspended by Jumbo-Visma following anti-doping positive

The German rider has been suspended by his team until further notice

www.cyclingnews.com

First JumboVisma crack? Small fish (no pun intended) tests positive for drug that can be used to cover performance enhancing drugs, including EPO ...

Meanwhile, Vingegaard will race the Vuelta without altitude training and without meticulous study of the course. Coach says it's tricky, but if everything goes right, he may hit his max level like in the Tour.

And his wife is in the Danish tabloids: 'My secret wish is that Jonas will ride all three Grand Tours within a year' ❤️❤️❤️

 

[Aimar16]

And his wife is in the Danish tabloids: 'My secret wish is that Jonas will ride all three Grand Tours within a year' ❤️❤️❤️

Translation: nine weeks of holidays paid by JV for her in Italy, France and Spain

 

[Lequack]

How they did it, the secret revealed.

How Jonas Vingegaard trained to crush Tadej Pogačar at the Tour de France
Team trainer lifts lid on framework that forged Vingegaard's yellow jersey dominance – how will it carry the Dane into Vuelta a España?

How Jonas Vingegaard trained to crush Tadej Pogačar at the Tour de France

Team trainer lifts lid on framework that forged Vingegaard's yellow jersey dominance – how will it carry the Dane into Vuelta a España?

velo.outsideonline.com

 

[meat puppet]

That was fairly scant on actual information, unfortunately. But that is to be expected. Everyone and their aunt knows that consistency is king, that Vingo's strength is long efforts and that they gained data revealing Pogi's measure last year. What we don't know concerns training and rest: the what, how much and when.

That Heijboer thinks he could reach TDF level in the Vuelta is actually interesting.

 

[Red Rick]

That was fairly scant on actual information, unfortunately. But that is to be expected. Everyone and their aunt knows that consistency is king, that Vingo's strength is long efforts and that they gained data revealing Pogi's measure last year. What we don't know concerns training and rest: the what, how much and when.

That Heijboer thinks he could reach TDF level in the Vuelta is actually interesting.

To me the implication is that they consider his Tour level not that much of a huge peak compared to his level throughout the rest of the year