Jonas Vingegaard: Something is Rotten

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I’ve never posted in the clinic before but I think it’s time.

Trying to keep up with the comments from today but there’s always a new page when I’m done. Can this even be done without some kind of motor?

I’m mad. Considering selling all my bikes.
I think we've all had this moment. I believe mine was when Froome went on that ridiculous 80KM raid over the Finestre and Sestriere in the 2018 Giro. That may have been my first post in the Clinic.
 
It's been a while since I posted on this forum, though I've been reading it for years.
Since the end of Froome's rule, I have been really trying to not be cynical, to just enjoy it... I have, in the past, liked some riders that have been caught doping, the other ones that I like, that haven't been caught almost certainly have doped. Hell, I really like Pogacar and I do not dislike Vingegaard either, I think they are both fun to watch. But a performance in which Pogacar routinely beats TT specialists [even if we count just the flat part] and gets his ass handed to him by Vingegaard... It is just very hard to not think about doping. I guess it doesn't matter anyway, he probably will never be caught, and even if he is, it's like, who cares, there will be a new one soon. But it just does kinda kills the enjoyment, doesn't it, when it looks like this.
 
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Vingegaard's VO2max was tested at 97 when he was 17 years old.

I've seen other articles where Team Danmark also state he tested abnormally high at the national performance center, the highest they've ever seen, like orders of magnitude higher than other pros. These were also tests conducted 5+ years ago.

This the first article I've seen where a number is stated. His father makes the comment:

"In 2016 Rasmussen recalls his son undergoing tests while riding for Odder Cykle club - the same team that helped develop future Tour of Flanders winner Kasper Asgreen, now at Soudal Quick-Step - which revealed that he had an exceptionally high VO2 max while still just a teenager. “They were testing all the guys in the team,” says Rasmussen. “I think there were about ten. They did seven of them and everything was normal, then they did Jonas and everything went out of order. He said ‘oh this cannot be right, I think my machine is broken’ then he tested three other guys after that and it was normal again,” he adds. “So it was not his machine, he’d just never seen anything like that before. At 17, Jonas’ VO2 max was something around 97.” Legendary Tour de France champion Miguel Indurain’s VO2 Max has been reported at anywhere between 78 and 95 millilitres per kilogram of body weight per minute."

please, you think we are all dumb or what; sell this crap on danish tv
 
Ill quote a post i made a few year ago. this now applies all over the board.



and here is one i made last year.



Maybe now you people will finaly belive me, its so blatant that motordoping coupled with a top tier program is whats going on. And it will NEVER be revealed as its to late now, you cannot do this without killing the entirity of the sport

Foliforov gif as its not working in the quoted message
Eventually some of them will sob and admit or get stabbed in the back. Then all will say "we leave this era behind" and a new era of "clean" begins.. well until new stars starts to break old unrealistic records. Rinse and Repeat.
 
Vingegaard's VO2max was tested at 97 when he was 17 years old.

I've seen other articles where Team Danmark also state he tested abnormally high at the national performance center, the highest they've ever seen, like orders of magnitude higher than other pros. These were also tests conducted 5+ years ago.

This the first article I've seen where a number is stated. His father makes the comment:

"In 2016 Rasmussen recalls his son undergoing tests while riding for Odder Cykle club - the same team that helped develop future Tour of Flanders winner Kasper Asgreen, now at Soudal Quick-Step - which revealed that he had an exceptionally high VO2 max while still just a teenager. “They were testing all the guys in the team,” says Rasmussen. “I think there were about ten. They did seven of them and everything was normal, then they did Jonas and everything went out of order. He said ‘oh this cannot be right, I think my machine is broken’ then he tested three other guys after that and it was normal again,” he adds. “So it was not his machine, he’d just never seen anything like that before. At 17, Jonas’ VO2 max was something around 97.” Legendary Tour de France champion Miguel Indurain’s VO2 Max has been reported at anywhere between 78 and 95 millilitres per kilogram of body weight per minute."


What is this? These are elite riders. Of course their numbers are off the chart. But please do learn how to use 'orders of magnitude' corretly.

When Pogacar did his 2020 performance, people said that Pogacar was special in how he would recover from lactic acid and how that was his unique unusual physical trait that would 'explain' his performance.

Come *** on!

And wasn't it for a long time that people said that VO2Max wasn't as important and useful because several people were dominating with lower VO2max values than others?

Watch this:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dWMdqOkK1Q
 
What is this? These are elite riders. Of course their numbers are off the chart. But please do learn how to use 'orders of magnitude' corretly.

When Pogacar did his 2020 performance, people said that Pogacar was special in how he would recover from lactic acid and how that was his unique unusual physical trait that would 'explain' his performance.

Come *** on!

And wasn't it for a long time that people said that VO2Max wasn't as important and useful because several people were dominating with lower VO2max values than others?
this kind of posts are poping up in the last few hours all over the net, somebody is doing damage control
 
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