Jonas Vingegaard: Something is Rotten

[Lequack]

I still cannot comprehend what happened today. This is the best time trial ever displayed on tarmac, performed by a guy who could break all of the climbing records set by Pantani tomorrow. Make it make sense.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1681375054259527681

View: https://twitter.com/Jslarsen/status/1681375054259527681

 

[kingjr]

Unfortunately the lads are still a bit sidetracked with the whole Covid vaccine/Bill Gates twitter rabbithole.

Days like this where when Digger truly shone, I hope he snaps out of it and returns to us soon.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1681331484962050051

What about sniper, is he still busy calling climate change a hoax?

 

[XlandaluzeX]

How?

 

[DNP-Old]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1681375054259527681

View: https://twitter.com/Jslarsen/status/1681375054259527681

Ah yes, the unrivalled, unparalled physical stats. Yet he was on the verge of calling the occupation of fisherman his career.

 

[therealthing]

Pretty sure the gaps to 2nd, 5th, 10th are the largest ever in a TDF TT

 

[noob]

Rasmusessen again

https://twitter.com/x/status/1681330600614019072

View: https://twitter.com/MRasmussen1974/status/1681330600614019072
I wonder if he changed his mind about a cleaner sport today...

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Pretty sure the gaps to 2nd, 5th, 10th are the largest ever in a TDF TT

If you don‘t consider long TTs to be TTs… Yes
2014 stage 20 had a larger gap to second.

 

[P.Latour]

Well in theory it would allow you to be less “on your limit” at any given power output, which means more oxygen available for your brain which means better decision making and ability to focus. How much of a difference (if any) it ends up making in actual practice is hard to quantify, though.

Well, thanks a bunch for that very informative answer to my very serious question. I'll try that tomorrow on Roselend.

 

[PapaMike]

There needs to be an eyeroll option in the "like" button. I find this sickening.

"Something around 97" says his father??? 97 is virtually the highest relative VO2 max ever recorded by any athlete -> VO2 max World Records. This is beyond Contador's performance on Verbier in 2009. Will be interesting if Lemond says anything? Poor Marco, his ADH record is on notice.

Why wasn't any of this mind blowing aerobic potential about Vingegaard made public prior to 2021 when he first appeared out of nowhere?

Yesterday I wrote I'd stop following cycling before Vingo won his 3rd Tour. I'll temper this prediction and just not bother watching any race Vingegaard competes at. This is just flipping the bird at the sport. Denmark should be embarrassed.

Healthy with a bit of skepticism. The insane VO2max however, seems to be accurate. Here's a Danish article from 2018 on the subject:

Ung thybo med særligt hjerte sprænger testrekorder | TV MIDTVEST

Læs mere her

www.tvmidtvest.dk

And you've all probably seen the video of a young JV smashing the Coll de Rates, if not, here it is:

REKORD på Coll de Rates | Se her videoen med Jonas Vingegaard Rasmussen som sammen med resten af holdet sætter Strava rekord på Coll de Rates 🚴 #wearecoloquick #teameffort Foto:... | By ColoQuick Cycling - Facebook

Se her videoen med Jonas Vingegaard Rasmussen som sammen med resten af holdet sætter Strava rekord på Coll de Rates 🚴 #wearecoloquick #teameffort Foto:...

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P.s. - long time lurker as well. As this topic seems to be blowing up i'm jumping on the bandwagon.

 

[Salvarani]

Rasmusessen again

https://twitter.com/x/status/1681330600614019072

View: https://twitter.com/MRasmussen1974/status/1681330600614019072
I wonder if he changed his mind about a cleaner sport today...

Rasmussen is petty, but I like it.

They busted him and he is known as one of the biggest cheaters ever. Maybe he dont want to be alone or for someone else to take over the title.

 

[ThisFrenchGuy]

I'll add that for the few I followed over the years I ended up on the sceptic side of the fence about motors, I might reconsider that perhaps because chaudière isn't even accurate anymore scale wise if we assume chemical / medical doping as an explanation for those spectacular displays of today.

 

[wickedw]

And this guy doesn't ride the ITT WC? Right.

I'd recommend all other gc guys to just skip the tour for the next few years. I'm sure everyone is doping but this is just a whole other level.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Ah yes, the unrivalled, unparalled physical stats. Yet he was on the verge of calling the occupation of fisherman his career.

Fishing business is hard and requires good fitness. Plus it's windy in Denmark so cycling is dangerous for light-weight guys.

 

[Rackham]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1681375054259527681

View: https://twitter.com/Jslarsen/status/1681375054259527681

As someone else noted already, Vinge's 'unmatched physical stats' meant he found a nice little job packing fish, i.e. which is obviously where all superhumans go when they're scouted as the next superstar of pro cycling. It makes total sense. Everyone knew he was a super talent.

In other news, according to French Eurosport, Vingegaard achieved the highest seconds per km gain since... 1962: https://www.eurosport.fr/cyclisme/t...secondes-par-kilometre_sto9707717/story.shtml

4,38 s/km, which is the highest since Federico Bahamontes achieved 4,96 s/km 61 years ago.

So, gentlemen (& ladies), what we just witnessed is a once-in-a-lifetime event. "How" it has come to pass in this modern pro cycling where levels are much more homogenous at the top & a certain professionalism is standard across the board (as is equipment), who knows.

But don't let anyone attempt to normalize what we just witnessed or handwave the difference, i.e. it's something hardly anyone has seen before in their lifetime of watching cycling.

 

[capuldemetal]

he wasn't fishing even.he worked in the fishery cleaning fish.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

As someone else noted already, Vinge's 'unmatched physical stats' meant he found a nice little job packing fish, i.e. which is obviously where all superhumans go when they're scouted as the next superstar of pro cycling. It makes total sense. Everyone knew he was a super talent.

In other news, according to French Eurosport, Vingegaard achieved the highest seconds per km gain since... 1962: https://www.eurosport.fr/cyclisme/t...secondes-par-kilometre_sto9707717/story.shtml

4,38 s/km, which is the highest since Federico Bahamontes achieved 4,96 s/km 61 years ago.

So, gentlemen (& ladies), what we just witnessed is a once-in-a-lifetime event. "How" it has come to pass in this modern pro cycling where levels are much more homogenous at the top & a certain professionalism is standard across the board (as is equipment), who knows.

But don't let anyone attempt to normalize what we just witnessed or handwave the difference, i.e. it's something hardly anyone has seen before in their lifetime of watching cycling.

And it's 4,38 s/km over Urshka Zigart's husband.
7.33 s/km over a journeyman called Van Aert isn't too shabby either.

 

[Salvarani]

As someone else noted already, Vinge's 'unmatched physical stats' meant he found a nice little job packing fish, i.e. which is obviously where all superhumans go when they're scouted as the next superstar of pro cycling. It makes total sense. Everyone knew he was a super talent.

In other news, according to French Eurosport, Vingegaard achieved the highest seconds per km gain since... 1962: https://www.eurosport.fr/cyclisme/t...secondes-par-kilometre_sto9707717/story.shtml

4,38 s/km, which is the highest since Federico Bahamontes achieved 4,96 s/km 61 years ago.

So, gentlemen (& ladies), what we just witnessed is a once-in-a-lifetime event. "How" it has come to pass in this modern pro cycling where levels are much more homogenous at the top & a certain professionalism is standard across the board (as is equipment), who knows.

But don't let anyone attempt to normalize what we just witnessed or handwave the difference, i.e. it's something hardly anyone has seen before in their lifetime of watching cycling.

JV found a guy who was willing to take all risks in the world and they succeeded together.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

As someone else noted already, Vinge's 'unmatched physical stats' meant he found a nice little job packing fish, i.e. which is obviously where all superhumans go when they're scouted as the next superstar of pro cycling. It makes total sense. Everyone knew he was a super talent.

In other news, according to French Eurosport, Vingegaard achieved the highest seconds per km gain since... 1962: https://www.eurosport.fr/cyclisme/t...secondes-par-kilometre_sto9707717/story.shtml

4,38 s/km, which is the highest since Federico Bahamontes achieved 4,96 s/km 61 years ago.

So, gentlemen (& ladies), what we just witnessed is a once-in-a-lifetime event. "How" it has come to pass in this modern pro cycling where levels are much more homogenous at the top & a certain professionalism is standard across the board (as is equipment), who knows.

But don't let anyone attempt to normalize what we just witnessed or handwave the difference, i.e. it's something hardly anyone has seen before in their lifetime of watching cycling.

Grischa Niermann‘s Total Cycling Agenda is endangering Roglič‘s legacy. He is overdoing it. You need to be very concerned!

 

[Riek s]

Dumoulin is on vive le velo... i just don't want to watch it anymore.

Belgium newspaper:

Zeven maanden voorbereiding en 100 gram bespaard waar je het nooit zou durven vermoeden: het geheim achter de tijdrit van Vingegaard.​

Het succesrecept achter de weergaloze tijdrit waarmee Vingegaard uitpakte in de Tour: “Alles van fiets geschraapt wat kon”

De tijdrit van Jonas Vingegaard in de Tour van afgelopen zomer was een van de strafste ooit. Elk succes heeft zijn vaders en bij deze is Mathieu Heijboer (41) er zéker een van. De Head of Performance van Jumbo-Visma was speciaal voor de tijdrit overgevlogen naar de Franse Alpen en probeert het...

www.hln.be

The incredible performance brought to you by preparing 7month, saving 100gram and no bike change. Everyone is in overdrive to 'explain' this result with not even proper explanations.

 

[nightowl]

Well, thanks a bunch for that very informative answer to my very serious question. I'll try that tomorrow on Roselend.

Heh I missed your username completely, good one!

 

[topcat]

It’s going to be impossible to read all this, so to summarise: today’s performance was BULLSHlT.

 

[ThisFrenchGuy]

As someone else noted already, Vinge's 'unmatched physical stats' meant he found a nice little job packing fish, i.e. which is obviously where all superhumans go when they're scouted as the next superstar of pro cycling. It makes total sense. Everyone knew he was a super talent.

In other news, according to French Eurosport, Vingegaard achieved the highest seconds per km gain since... 1962: https://www.eurosport.fr/cyclisme/t...secondes-par-kilometre_sto9707717/story.shtml

4,38 s/km, which is the highest since Federico Bahamontes achieved 4,96 s/km 61 years ago.

So, gentlemen (& ladies), what we just witnessed is a once-in-a-lifetime event. "How" it has come to pass in this modern pro cycling where levels are much more homogenous at the top & a certain professionalism is standard across the board (as is equipment), who knows.

But don't let anyone attempt to normalize what we just witnessed or handwave the difference, i.e. it's something hardly anyone has seen before in their lifetime of watching cycling.

It's really that insane, right ? Someone said in the thread it was beyond even Lance's circus and I was like "is it though ? Armstrong had some crazy climbs..." but the hard metrics are an outlier.

As I said, I grew pretty numb about doping. Sure Vingo & Pog were heads and shoulders above everyone in GC up that point but I suppose I can tolerate the kayfabe of two generational talents battling it out.

 

[Red Rick]

Rasmussen is petty, but I like it.

They busted him and he is known as one of the biggest cheaters ever. Maybe he dont want to be alone or for someone else to take over the title.

Rasmussen is pretty accepted as a pundit now FWIW, so he's not gonna go full Antoine Vayer over this.

 

[Ripper]

Assuming we're right talking about them in the clinic (I'm still on the fence), he's trolling everybody else. Pog clearly is on the same juice in that case.

You are on the fence as to whether they are doping?

 

[Salvarani]

Rasmussen is pretty accepted as a pundit now FWIW, so he's not gonna go full Antoine Vayer over this.

It was tongue in cheek. I dont believe he will lose his job or money over it. It just funny to see him ask questions like that, with his history.