Jonas Vingegaard: Something is Rotten

[noob]

Whatever Jonas gets I hope they give it to ME and LC patients and please to those suffering from PEM in general.
Least it's just cortisone.

 

[Axel Hangleck]

Let's say I'm a novice and you're the experts.

How is it possible to have these performances after two weeks in the ICU?

After that injury you can run a TDF but you can't push those EPO 90s alien watts.

the injuries of Bernal/Froome/Evenepoel were potentially fatal, this??? In two months he pushes alien watts???

I rarely come on the clinic forum as I can accept most super performances and don't think everybody 'is at it'.
But this is taking the pi55.......If he really was in ICU, then it makes no sense...he's as good as ever. Which goes against everything we think we know about athletic performance.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Let's say I'm a novice and you're the experts.

How is it possible to have these performances after two weeks in the ICU?

After that injury you can run a TDF but you can't push those EPO 90s alien watts.

the injuries of Bernal/Froome/Evenepoel were potentially fatal, this??? In two months he pushes alien watts???

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/YuE17gDwhL4?si=RZBwh0POnNh34ctr

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Whatever Jonas gets I hope they give it to ME and LC patients and please to those suffering from PEM in general.
Least it's just cortisone.

I posted this two years ago, but I guess now they've distributed their stuff differently, so that Jonas gets more and his teammates less.

JV could end the Russo-Ukranian War in three weeks.

 

[Extinction]

I rarely come on the clinic forum as I can accept most super performances and don't think everybody 'is at it'.
But this is taking the pi55.......If he really was in ICU, then it makes no sense...he's as good as ever. Which goes against everything we think we know about athletic performance.

Idem Pogacar.

 

[meat puppet]

I rarely come on the clinic forum as I can accept most super performances and don't think everybody 'is at it'.
But this is taking the pi55.......If he really was in ICU, then it makes no sense...he's as good as ever. Which goes against everything we think we know about athletic performance.

Absent both and throw in the other big mutants for a good measure, and we might have an exciting race. Maybe even the sport would be less of a joke (which is on me, as I continue to watch).

Anyway, I'm at a loss understanding Vinge. The otherworldliness of his riding can IMHO be illustrated by the following juxtaposition: let's say a top Marathoner* goes through what JV did 3 months out of main competition? Do we expect a creme de la creme performance? I would not.

Still, the base might falter. But who knows, he seems to be gaining strength.

* Abstracting from the fact that a marathon lasts 2hrs, not 21 days

 

[Screecher]

I think his performance is easy to explain. If he never crashed he would've absolutely destroyed everyone, maybe not as much as Pogacar in the Giro but it would've been an easy victory. But he might still be good enough to win regardless.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Both jonas le robot and Tadej gianetti are as ridiculous as each other and have been since 2021

 

[CleanCiclismo]

Hard to believe those w/kg. Truly remarkable after his injury.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1811085601510412666

View: https://x.com/NaichacaCycling/status/1811085601510412666

 

[fenns]

in 10 days from "might not ride the race" to strongest in the field. it's a miracle!

 

[Vudy]

in 10 days from "might not ride the race" to strongest in the field. it's a miracle!

It seems miracles do exist in cycling... Best recovery in the world.

 

[ElDesordenado]

in 10 days from "might not ride the race" to strongest in the field. it's a miracle!

According to Visma, it really is! https://sport.tv2.dk/live/cykling/2024-07-10-tour-de-france-11-etape

 

[Low is rhe new high]

I might be off topic here for a minute but I wish Pog would wear the black shorts instead of the full yellow skinsuit. It's a fashion aberration riding around like a human banana.

no its the most valid observation made here. Why is he dressed like someone from arrested development? Is it possible to start a movement bring back the black shorts.

 

[fenns]

the angel rolled away the stone


what I don't get is the pre-race statements from the team expressing uncertainty about JV's condition and even his participation. what was wrong with saying Jonas is training well and is in great shape for the race. as it is the public narrative is very suspect.

perhaps they simply didn't know in what great shape he was. or maybe they just don't care how it looks - so confident ar they that the cycling media will lap up the "miracle" story

 

[Cookster15]

The only hope is that he runs out of base conditioning a similar way as how Pogacar was exposed on Loze last year. Otherwise its very difficult to accept based upon anything known about athletic recovery after the injuries and training interruption he suffered.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

The only hope is that he runs out of base conditioning a similar way as how Pogacar was exposed on Loze last year. Otherwise its very difficult to accept based upon anything known about athletic recovery after the injuries and training interruption he suffered.

We will see, he's not getting weaker by any means but it's the opposite. The battle continues but the way Vingo closed the gap today is a warning for Teddy ahead of the Pyrenees. Vingo can still crack at some point but it's not looking like that. if he avoids any bad day till the end of the race it'll be ridiculous given his preparations.

 

[Climbing]

I can't wrap my head around what is more ridiculous... Pogi being in top form all year round, or Vinge being resurrected from the dead and going full gas.
Hope this stuff can be used to save some lives as well in the near future...

 

[Ripper]

There can be no doubt anymore.

What, you don't believe in dreams and the power of love?

 

[Ripper]

our hero is going to win this race by 2 minutes. he clearly lost very little condition when he was wounded (rather than injured). all the talk that he might not even ride this year was just mind-games from his team

You might be correct about the bolded!

 

[Ripper]

Pneumothorax increases Vo2Max it seems. And he will get stronger every day.

Shhh. All the pros will be heading out to puncture a lung before big races

 

[Ripper]

Just checking in to see which one the brain trust thinks is doping more, funny Teddy or silent Jojo.

Is it a question of who's doping more? I didn't think that was a serious question

 

[Ripper]

do we know what the w/kg is? it was doped for sure but it looked more like Pogacar bonked than anything. i would imagine both of them were below their level from last year.

TaPoPo definitely looked human at the end

 

[AmRacer]

TaPoPo definitely looked human at the end

Depends on who you compare with, J.

 

[Nick2413]

Let's say I'm a novice and you're the experts.

How is it possible to have these performances after two weeks in the ICU?

After that injury you can run a TDF but you can't push those EPO 90s alien watts.

the injuries of Bernal/Froome/Evenepoel were potentially fatal, this??? In two months he pushes alien watts???

I was just in the Basque Country and I can promise you the food out there has magical properties, whatever they were feeding them in the hospitals must have been even better than dope.

 

[shadowrider]

Idem Pogacar.

Maybe also Pogacar. But today, Pogacar was a bit fading during the last km. He also had two breakdowns (a huge one and a small one) during the Tour 22 and a huge breakdown in 23. So, that makes Pogacar a bit more human.
Vingegaard was defeated a few times in the past. But never decisive during the Tour. And after what he showed after his crash, with broken bones, a pneumothorax, intensive care, two weeks in hospital........ in that short time, is completely ridiculous.