Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Kelderman underperformed. Not sure if he isn´t suited for the domestique role or simply wasn´t in peak shape but ignoring Loze and Marie Blanque he could barely follow WVA and Van Baarle. Was dropped by them on a couple of stages in the second and third week.

What people are forgetting is that Kelderman was initially planned for the Giro but missed that due to a fall. And Kelderman was reserve for the Tour and not optimally prepared.
Kelderman said himself he was happy with his level in the Tour but it wasn't his top level. The preparation wasn't there for that.

 

[Red Rick]

this is not even a real question, judging by all the data we have Vingegaard (and Pogacar) woudl destroy peak froome with ease.

Would work well with the Froome yoyo strategy that he would get dropped instantly on the climb and then slowly clawed back with his entire train to get like 8th on a MTF.

 

[Red Rick]

What people are forgetting is that Kelderman was initially planned for the Giro but missed that due to a fall. And Kelderman was reserve for the Tour and not optimally prepared.
Kelderman said himself he was happy with his level in the Tour but it wasn't his top level. The preparation wasn't there for that.

Kelderman on his better days did quite some damage.

He seems really happy in this role too, I don't think starts complaining quikcly about not getting his own chances. He was basiclaly the first to be scheduled for the Giro and was then super happy to hear Roglic was also gonna race it.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Kelderman said after the Tour that his days of riding for a GT are over. He says there's no point since he can't win, maximum top 5 or top 10. He did enjoy his giro podium and TDF top 10 but is happy to work for a leader that can actually win.

 

[Rob5091]

It was class that Croatian race, maybe that's why he's doing La Vuelta, ducking Onley?

Vingegaard could be in for a shock then, as young Lenny M is doing the Vuelta!

 

[RobertCrawley]

A couple of dudes and a tyke.

Cobble trophy in the background.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1683497134681731078

View: https://twitter.com/JumboVismaRoad/status/1683497134681731078?s=20

 

[IndianCyclist]

This guy gives me Armstrong vibes (not talking about clinic) and seems more and more confortable in the Tour. He seems really "in the zone" in France and definetly shows a tremendous level of dominance and consistency that I didn't see since Armstrong.

while Pog is more like Sagan

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

A couple of dudes and a tyke.

Cobble trophy in the background.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1683497134681731078

View: https://twitter.com/JumboVismaRoad/status/1683497134681731078?s=20

Was just about to post this and conclude Wout found Vingo a T-shirt for his size.

No seriously, a real team's man, taking the time to do it though the hustle and bustle that comes with yellow.

 

[Peter von]

Was just about to post this and conclude Wout found Vingo a T-shirt for his size.

No seriously, a real team's man, taking the time to do it though the hustle and bustle that comes with yellow.

yeah, pretty nice, Jumbo-Visma's press officer could have phoned Wout up long enough in advance for him to take a shower or at least do his hair.

 

[Red Rick]

yeah, pretty nice, Jumbo-Visma's press officer could have phoned Wout up long enough in advance for him to take a shower or at least do his hair.

Wouts hair clearly made for being the teammate of a yellow jersey winner

 

[Peter von]

Wouts hair clearly made for being the teammate of a yellow jersey winner

true, sorry he most have gone through significant effort to make the hair look so messy

 

[Andy schleck]

It was already decided in December that he's also going to the Vuelta. And I read about San Sebastian and both WC's are part of his schedule.

I don't think he is ride some race until la vuelta.
Jumbo started some days ago a 3 week altitude training campo in tignes. Soon, Vingegaard is going to tignes.

 

[glassmoon]

A couple of dudes and a tyke.

Cobble trophy in the background.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1683497134681731078

View: https://twitter.com/JumboVismaRoad/status/1683497134681731078?s=20

cobble trophy as a book holder...

 

[Alpehue]

Vingegaard will be in top form.

He wouldn't be going otherwise. Even the messaging would be different (they'd downplay his chances) because here he clearly says "co leader".

Vingegaard is a top GT star now. These guys don't race GT's just to ride support or not in condition to win.

He was asked in a Danish interview if he was going to the Vuelta to win it, with the implication that he might be going to help someone else, he hesitated for a second and looked straight into the camera and said loud and clear "yes!"

He also said in the same interview that he wanted to do the Vuelta last year as well, but the team said no.

 

[Scarponi]

Where and when did he say that?

I mean, it makes a lot of sense to me. There's not anything to do for him after Tour de France apart from Lombardia, and he has proven he's not very good targetting that race. The Vuelta good serve as a race for him just like it did for Froome who also didn't have anything better to do and try to target it. Both riders loved the heat as well and pretty much isn't made for racing anything else than hard stage races.

So very good on him for doing that. Its a lot better than Tour of fricking Croatia.

Was it ever legit scientifically when Froome and other GT riders 5 years ago said doing the second GT was great for the legs , for the following season?

 

[Berniece]

Was it ever legit scientifically when Froome and other GT riders 5 years ago said doing the second GT was great for the legs , for the following season?

I would think so, since Froome was at Sky who already had a very scientific approach to racing.

 

[Andy schleck]

It makes sense that vingegaard goes to la vuelta. There's nothing more relevant to race until the end of the year, except for il lombardia. He doesn’t lose anything by going to la vuelta.

 

[Oldermanish]

yeah, pretty nice, Jumbo-Visma's press officer could have phoned Wout up long enough in advance for him to take a shower or at least do his hair.

He can't wash his hair this close to having the blonde highlights added on his bangs......

 

[Oldermanish]

I would think so, since Froome was at Sky who already had a very scientific approach to racing.

It can be; done at a strength pace I would guess. Going over the top can be pointlessly taxing and set him up for injuries or illness, too. All of that is generalized theory and Jonas should do what he wants. Telling the Danish press he could be going for the win isn't the same as planning to go for the win.

 

[Red Rick]

It can be; done at a strength pace I would guess. Going over the top can be pointlessly taxing and set him up for injuries or illness, too. All of that is generalized theory and Jonas should do what he wants. Telling the Danish press he could be going for the win isn't the same as planning to go for the win.

"We have a more difficult goal than winning La Vuelta.

To get Kelderman a stage win"

 

[Krzysztof_O]

It makes sense that vingegaard goes to la vuelta. There's nothing more relevant to race until the end of the year, except for il lombardia. He doesn’t lose anything by going to la vuelta.

He's a top stage race specialist so it's obviously the best to maximize his chances by going to difficult stage-races.

 

[theyoungest]

He can't wash his hair this close to having the blonde highlights added on his bangs......

They're natural. He's always had them.

 

[Red Rick]

I've been going over it a bit but when I think of riders doing Tour-Vuelta doubles the Vuelta has usually been worse if the Tour has been red hot and vice versa, if I go over doubles by Froome, Valverde, Purito, Quintana, Roglic, Mas and even Menchov. When any of them hit roughly the same level in both races it was because they weren't hitting their career peaks anyway.

Might include Andy Schleck but somehow I don't see Jonas going on a bender.

 

[Berniece]

Vingegaard isn’t doing altitude training beforehand. I don’t expect him to outshine the rest of the riders as he would do in TDF form. Wouldn’t be surprised if he gets dropped, and doesn’t finish in the top 3.

 

[Oldermanish]

They're natural. He's always had them.

You're right. And, as Mugatu spoke in Zoolander: "Good God...it's beautiful!"