Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[Netserk]

At least he will try something for sure.

Kruijswijk better be ready, I don't think blobloblo is good enough to make a proper launch.

 

[Froome]

Kruijswijk better be ready, I don't think blobloblo is good enough to make a proper launch.

Honestly, i don't understand why Kruijswijk is listed to the Tour de France, he doesn't have the level anymore to be a good help to vingegaard. I would take kelderman instead of him to the Tour.

Kuss+jorgenson+kelderman would be the perfect help for vingegaard in the mountains.

I hope vallter and uijdtbroeks can make the climb really hard until vingegaard launches his attack.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

At least he will try something for sure.

If Vingo tries there'll be fireworks. Otherwise fireworks on Saturday.

 

[Netserk]

UAE has pretty weak support, so I guess it's not impossible that the rest will look at Ayuso and race for second.

 

[Elos Anjos]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1765431056805564789

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That's another line in his vastly growing cv in bike handling skills.

 

[Salvarani]

Honestly, i don't understand why Kruijswijk is listed to the Tour de France, he doesn't have the level anymore to be a good help to vingegaard. I would take kelderman instead of him to the Tour.

Kuss+jorgenson+kelderman would be the perfect help for vingegaard in the mountains.

I hope vallter and uijdtbroeks can make the climb really hard until vingegaard launches his attack.

Kruijswijk is more reliable and in peak form he is probably still a better climber than the rest. Knows what it takes and a great super-dom. One of the most trusted in the supporting cast for them.

Jorgenson... still new to the team.

Valter... never raced the Tour or done much domestic work in a GT, yet.

Kelderman... crash prone.

Uijtebroeks... not experienced.

 

[RedheadDane]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1765431056805564789

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Did he go to the Wilco Kelderman School of Jacket Management?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Did he go to the Wilco Kelderman School of Jacket Management?

I heard that school crashed.

 

[Cookster15]

IMO it's the sort of climb that's conventionally too easy in that position, but given Vingegaards GC position and presumed superiority over everyone else I'm very bullish that he'll just dust everyone off his wheel.

That would be true in July, but his ITT was very underwhelming and does not suggest he is in good shape in March? Maybe he is more vulnerable?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I'm not convinced he'll be able to break Ayuso in this race, although Ayuso won't be able be part of a UAE tag team like in the one-day races he's ridden this year.

That would be true in July, but his ITT was very underwhelming and does not suggest he is in good shape in March? Maybe he is more vulnerable?

I think that was mostly due to the course and the fact that UAE's TT bikes are currently better than Visma's (at least on the flat). It's a shame we didn't get too see him go all out in the ITT in Galicia, so we could have had a better impression. His climbing hasn't seemed to be below par yet, so I don't think he's in bad shape. The effect from his altitude camp should also still be there.

 

[Netserk]

I'm not convinced he'll be able to break Ayuso in this race, although Ayuso won't be able be part of a UAE tag team like in the one-day races he's ridden this year.

While there are only two serious stages, I still expect Ayuso to underperform in one of them.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

While there are only two serious stages, I still expect Ayuso to underperform in one of them.

He's obviously not the most reliable guy, but I assume he's stronger now than he was in Romandie last year, so I definitely don't expect him to blow up completely.

 

[RedheadDane]

That would be true in July, but his ITT was very underwhelming and does not suggest he is in good shape in March? Maybe he is more vulnerable?

Maybe it's a ploy. He does bad to lure his opponents into a false sense of security.

 

[Elos Anjos]

While there are only two serious stages, I still expect Ayuso to underperform in one of them.

Yes, he has a history of fading, but I'm rooting for the young Spaniard to hang on, it would make the Tour really wild.

 

[Froome]

I think it's hard enough. The steeper pinch is just long enough and at the perfect point in the climb IMO to torch everyone.

IMO it's the sort of climb that's conventionally too easy in that position, but given Vingegaards GC position and presumed superiority over everyone else I'm very bullish that he'll just dust everyone off his wheel.

Finale is hard enough to make a chase difficult and waiting on domestiques pretty bad.

I don't see Ayuso hanging on, but maybe he closes a gap with a kamikaze descent.

He can also increase the advantage with his skills on the descent.

 

[Froome]

I'm not convinced he'll be able to break Ayuso in this race, although Ayuso won't be able be part of a UAE tag team like in the one-day races he's ridden this year.



I think that was mostly due to the course and the fact that UAE's TT bikes are currently better than Visma's (at least on the flat). It's a shame we didn't get too see him go all out in the ITT in Galicia, so we could have had a better impression. His climbing hasn't seemed to be below par yet, so I don't think he's in bad shape. The effect from his altitude camp should also still be there.

In the Vuelta he was also sh** in the TT, but in the mountains he could drop everybody.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

In the Vuelta he was also sh** in the TT, but in the mountains he could drop everybody.

*Everybody bar Roglič.

 

[Froome]

*Everybody bar Roglič.

No please, let's not start this discussion again 😂
I will stop here.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I will stop here.

Thank you.

 

[Froome]

Thank you.

Even if in the mountains vingegaard dropped everybody on tourmalet and sierra de bejes 😉 he finished alone.

 

[kn0s]

That would be true in July, but his ITT was very underwhelming and does not suggest he is in good shape in March? Maybe he is more vulnerable?

His TT was very typical. His level in one week/first week GT, flat course, is normally around 5-10 place against proper opponents. That's nothing new.

 

[Froome]

His TT was very typical. His level in one week/first week GT, flat course, is normally around 5-10 place against proper opponents. That's nothing new.

Probably he would do better in a flat TT, on first week of july, because he is there in peak shape.
During the year is different, but in the mountains he resents less.

 

[kn0s]

Probably he would do better in a flat TT, one first week of july, because there he is in peak shape.
During the year, is different, but in the mountains he resents less.

7th in Copenhagen, seems like the level, me thinks.

 

[Netserk]

7th in Copenhagen, seems like the level, me thinks.

Against much better competition.

 

[Froome]

7th in Copenhagen, seems like the level, me thinks.

Yes, he can do better in a flat TT like he did on that situation, but he needs to be in peak shape.