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Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

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  • The Chicken who eats Riis for breakfast

    Votes: 32 33.3%
  • When they go low, Vingo high

    Votes: 6 6.3%
  • Wings of Love

    Votes: 8 8.3%
  • The Fishman Cometh

    Votes: 14 14.6%
  • The Mysterious Vingegaard Society

    Votes: 12 12.5%
  • Vingo Star

    Votes: 15 15.6%
  • The Jonas Vingegaard Discussion Thread

    Votes: 29 30.2%
  • Vingegaard vs Roglič

    Votes: 6 6.3%

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Somewhere in this thread there was a lengthy (might be an understatement) discussion about some kind of inflatable protection gear (I think) for riders to prevent collarbone injuries which Abi was pushing and most others found absurd.

Including - as I distinctively recall - the claim that a broken collarbone would mean the end of the season.
Which, I mean, sure... if it happens during Il Lombardia...
 
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I'm missing the joke, sorry. Why CyclistAbi can't see that?
Maybe Abi was right all along 😀
If you have the time it’s honestly better to grab your favorite snack and read the 10 plus page discussion.
But they only really entered the conversation when the crash affected Roglic or Jumbo, picked a recreational product that had no practical or safe use at the pro level, stated all criticism was hate, etc. Honestly peak of everything you’d expect from the person.
 
If you have the time it’s honestly better to grab your favorite snack and read the 10 plus page discussion.
But they only really entered the conversation when the crash affected Roglic or Jumbo, picked a recreational product that had no practical or safe use at the pro level, stated all criticism was hate, etc. Honestly peak of everything you’d expect from the person.
Where i can see that discussion? Roglic thread?
 
Well, the family definitely won't be short on space when they're in Denmark.

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And I can't help but notice how there seems to be quite a distance to the nearest neighbours.
wow neat house looks really nice. What part in Denmark is this?
 
They recently bought it. It cost them 15 million DKK, which is a lot of money to spend on a house you're not even gonna be at for most of the year!
What's the trick? Bad macro-location? Google tells me 16M DKK is 2M EUR and in Slovenia, you would have to try really hard to get a house like that for 2M while Denmark has much higher standard so it should be much more expensive... Or do you have normal real-estate prices by any chance?

Edit: Oh, I see that indeed you do have normal real-estate prices. Average square meter in Denmark is roughly 30% of average gross salary. In Slovenia, it's about 1:1 (2:1 in Ljubljana)...
 
What's the trick? Bad macro-location? Google tells me 16M DKK is 2M EUR and in Slovenia, you would have to try really hard to get a house like that for 2M while Denmark has much higher standard so it should be much more expensive... Or do you have normal real-estate prices by any chance?

Edit: Oh, I see that indeed you do have normal real-estate prices. Average square meter in Denmark is roughly 30% of average gross salary. In Slovenia, it's about 1:1 (2:1 in Ljubljana)...
Yup, in germany 2M for this would also be unthinkable, except for maybe in the remotest east german countryside.
 
What's the trick? Bad macro-location? Google tells me 16M DKK is 2M EUR and in Slovenia, you would have to try really hard to get a house like that for 2M while Denmark has much higher standard so it should be much more expensive... Or do you have normal real-estate prices by any chance?

Edit: Oh, I see that indeed you do have normal real-estate prices. Average square meter in Denmark is roughly 30% of average gross salary. In Slovenia, it's about 1:1 (2:1 in Ljubljana)...

The house had been for sale for 5 years, so it seems that the price wasn't the right one for the area, and Vingegaard might therefore also have paid less for it. If it had faced the North Sea, for instance, it would probably have been more expensive and possibly easier to sell, too.
 
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I understand that, but I would have guessed I house like that in Denmark should be a lot more expensive than 2M EUR. My guess was based on false assumption you guys are as nuts with the housing bubble as we are :)
I think it's hard to compare housing prices between countries tbh. Different rules, different situation, different mentality, etc.. results in big price difference.

I don't know how it works in Denmark, but in Sweden you're only obliged to pay back 50% of your mortgage for example (you keep paying the interest though). The result is that the price is higher, but you actually pay less (but in the end the banks profit).

Anyway, nice house he's having! ;-)
 
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I think it's hard to compare housing prices between countries tbh. Different rules, different situation, different mentality, etc.. results in big price difference.

I don't know how it works in Denmark, but in Sweden you're only obliged to pay back 50% of your mortgage for example (you keep paying the interest though). The result is that the price is higher, but you actually pay less (but in the end the banks profit).

Anyway, nice house he's having! ;-)
Sorry for derailing the thread - but how does that work? If I understand correctly, you return only 50% of the principal but 100% of interests, generated by that principal? What's the benefit of that - assuming that banks just raise interest rates to the point where higher rates just cover the missing 50% principal?
 
Sorry for derailing the thread - but how does that work? If I understand correctly, you return only 50% of the principal but 100% of interests, generated by that principal? What's the benefit of that - assuming that banks just raise interest rates to the point where higher rates just cover the missing 50% principal?
I think he means you can stop paying amortization installments when your mortgage is at 50 % of the value of the house. Or something like that.
If I remember correct, there's also a special way of funding your house n Denmark.
 
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What's the trick? Bad macro-location? Google tells me 16M DKK is 2M EUR and in Slovenia, you would have to try really hard to get a house like that for 2M while Denmark has much higher standard so it should be much more expensive... Or do you have normal real-estate prices by any chance?

Edit: Oh, I see that indeed you do have normal real-estate prices. Average square meter in Denmark is roughly 30% of average gross salary. In Slovenia, it's about 1:1 (2:1 in Ljubljana)...
Location, location, location.
Salling region in Northern Jutland is lower-end real estate price tags, even for nice locations as this one.

You could probably multiply by a factor of 10 if location was just north of Cph...
 
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