I think he hasa status to also have a word in this decision. So "rushing him" without him being ok with it is not a real thing.
Yes, he seems like a very strong-willed person with a cut-through attitude.
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I think he hasa status to also have a word in this decision. So "rushing him" without him being ok with it is not a real thing.
Well he's at there pre TDF training camp so I think he'll start, ready or not, it's not like he's taking a spot away from another rider who could do any better
Is on Bora since this season and will most likely be selected for their tour team!Roglič?
Is on Bora since this season and will most likely be selected for their tour team!
On that case, it would be unthinkable for him to go to the Tour.Watched this morning Thijs' video shorts on his Strava uploads, recordings while group training, shots behind Jonas and some of the other team members.
Seems everyone around Jonas is on a relax retreat at near resting HR's and the only one that seems with full focus and looks like he struggles is Jonas.
Of course these are just snapshot short vids.
Just striking that the pattern seems completely consistent.....well..
I think you are right. It's his ridingstyle. But I still don't think it runs smoothly at all. That's not possible after what happened. But he still has more than a week to get the right pedal stroke. He will be very close (not quite) to his top form in ten days.On that case, it would be unthinkable for him to go to the Tour.
I saw those videos yesterday, Vingegaard always looks like he is struggling because of his style in the bike, especially when he does that weird thing with legs like he did in the TT of last year's Tour de France.
We can see here a similar video, where it looks like he is struggling, but that's just his style on the bike.
View: https://youtu.be/2CluddZjXrg?si=Tph3fWTIcpes4fn2
Is that a feeling you have, or some inside information?I think you are right. It's his ridingstyle. But I still don't think it runs smoothly at all. That's not possible after what happened. But he still has more than a week to get the right pedal stroke. He will be very close (not quite) to his top form in ten days.
You do realize that, if he's declared a non-starter now that Pogacar as last year's #2 at the Tour that UAE would move up to the #1 team. Along with that all of the positioning perks in the caravan and busses would change.Indeed. The decision has already been made a few days ago. The 8 riders mentioned are the participants to the Tour. The only reason VLAB don't communicate is for strategic reasons. But that makes no sense, because all competing teams have known the VLAB team for days. Of course, Kelderman could have crashed hard again during the Tour of Suisse. But he didn't (at least not hard). So, if they want to remain credible, they should "officially" announce the team today or tomorrow.
Do you have some information inside the team? Because according to the team he will only go to the Tour if he can be competitive.There's no "surprise" other than if Jonas does roll in it will be to train. UAE is pretty much a lock on team depth.
I think you are right. It's his ridingstyle. But I still don't think it runs smoothly at all. That's not possible after what happened. But he still has more than a week to get the right pedal stroke. He will be very close (not quite) to his top form in ten days.
Every rider recovers in a different way, but i am very optimistic after seeing the perfomance of Steff Cras at Tour of Slovenia.Top form? Not sure if I missed anything as news changes every day but from everything I have read about the seriousness of Vingegaard's injuries I very much doubt ten days is enough.
Forget his riding style in a video, he suffered a punctured lung remember? Pretty sure he can train at altitude or whatever. But be at close to his incredible 2023 TdF level - eg Combloux TT? I think we need to be realistic. I won't be the only one stunned if we see anything like that.
Top form? Not sure if I missed anything as news changes every day but from everything I have read about the seriousness of Vingegaard's injuries I very much doubt ten days is enough.
Forget his riding style in a video, he suffered a punctured lung remember? Pretty sure he can train at altitude or whatever. But be at close to his incredible 2023 TdF level - eg Combloux TT? I think we need to be realistic. I won't be the only one stunned if we see anything like that.
You do realize that, if he's declared a non-starter now that Pogacar as last year's #2 at the Tour that UAE would move up to the #1 team. Along with that all of the positioning perks in the caravan and busses would change.
If I'm wrong; someone correct me.
There's no "surprise" other than if Jonas does roll in it will be to train. UAE is pretty much a lock on team depth.
Of course, I should have mentioned that that is in flux for the race caravan. It seems as though the assignments on team buses and related activities stayed constant. The #1 team generally had the closest, most convenient positioning. Not that that's a huge thing since UAE is #2.I think the positioning rules for team vehicles based on prior winning or being the #1 team/rider, only really apply on the 1st stage, as after that its then all about GC of the current race.
"Competitive" could mean a lot of things. But I think he has to start, there's nothing wrong with giving it a shot if he's pain free. In fact I would expect it from a professional athlete.Do you have some information inside the team? Because according to the team he will only go to the Tour if he can be competitive.
German Google Translate tells me that Visma are aiming for this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EndsiegThe Dutch are trying to stir more controversy.
Jonas Vingegaard is a worthy servant for Matteo Jorgenson
"Vingegaard as a servant?
“Yes”, is Visma’s answer | Lease a Bike. Kuss has also shown a Grand Tour with his overall victory in the Vuelta a Espana last year to win a Grand Tour. The question now is whether Vingegaard can support both Americans in his condition as a helper."
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Jonas Vingegaard is een waardige knecht voor Matteo Jorgenson
Discussie Het hoofdpijndossier van Visma | Lease a Bike blijft de gemoederen bezighouden. Nog altijd is niet duidelijk of Jonas Vingegaard de Tour de France haalt, maar sportief directeur Merijn Zeeman opende maandagavond wel deuren. Eerst moest de Deen 100% fit zijn om te kunnen meedoen voor de...www.wielerflits.nl
German Google Translate tells me that Visma are aiming for this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endsieg
The Dutch are trying to stir more controversy.
Jonas Vingegaard is a worthy servant for Matteo Jorgenson
"Vingegaard as a servant?
“Yes”, is Visma’s answer | Lease a Bike. Kuss has also shown a Grand Tour with his overall victory in the Vuelta a Espana last year to win a Grand Tour. The question now is whether Vingegaard can support both Americans in his condition as a helper."
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Jonas Vingegaard is een waardige knecht voor Matteo Jorgenson
Discussie Het hoofdpijndossier van Visma | Lease a Bike blijft de gemoederen bezighouden. Nog altijd is niet duidelijk of Jonas Vingegaard de Tour de France haalt, maar sportief directeur Merijn Zeeman opende maandagavond wel deuren. Eerst moest de Deen 100% fit zijn om te kunnen meedoen voor de...www.wielerflits.nl