Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[velaso montador]

Im not Vingegaard biggest advocate and fan but I have no problem appriciating people who has had missfortunes/adversity and have the dedication and will to put themself thru hell and comeback thats easy to respect for me and deserve anything they get so good on you Jonas.

Glad he seems to be fine and that he is on this level now is also nothing but respectable for me.

 

[Froome]

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[dennisdy]

Jonas won't fade in the third week. Look at his performance over the past three years. He has always moved up in the final week. In 2021 he moved from third to second. In 2022+2023 he increased his lead.

Pogacar was my pick because I expected Vingegaard to fall behind on this stage. However, when Pogacar jumped, Jonas was right on his wheel. His fastest reaction to Pogacar ever. He will keep getting stronger!

 

[Oldermanish]

The difference between Visma and UAE is simply night and day. UAE might have all the watts in the world, but I don't think Ayuso and Almeida have made a single pull this race, while Visma is perfectly using all their guys. I've lost count how many times Pogacar has gone into a crucial short climb out of position and with no teammates in sight.

Totally. There should have been a UAE guy to further jamb the summit before the descent to give them a bigger gap and slow any pursuit. It was a sh*tshow of guys trying to get a line to chase that helped the gap but it could have been bigger. Both Pog and Vingo took some large risks on the descent for a handful of seconds.
It may be the way to get a lead early on but some of the strategy looked amateurish except Jonas' positioning. It was spot on.

 

[Oldermanish]

Jonas won't fade in the third week. Look at his performance over the past three years. He has always moved up in the final week. In 2021 he moved from third to second. In 2022+2023 he increased his lead.

Pogacar was my pick because I expected Vingegaard to fall behind on this stage. However, when Pogacar jumped, Jonas was right on his wheel. His fastest reaction to Pogacar ever. He will keep getting stronger!

This is a whole new world for Jonas. Prior performances might give him some encouragement but his prep is nothing like those efforts. Jonas was well positioned and Pogi made a last second impulsive jump.

 

[BubbaChuck]

Its hard to say,but jonas probably has best recovery ever.his vo2 max recovery and fatigue resistence looks out of this world.his base vo2max is 97,thats crazy even for guys like pog,hinault,mercxx,pantani or lemond.his durability is unmatched.

 

[ppanther92]

He is 2/1 with bookies now, Pog is evens. Remco next best at 18/1.

Realistic assessment

 

[Medvind]

Its hard to say,but jonas probably has best recovery ever.his vo2 max recovery and fatigue resistence looks out of this world.his base vo2max is 97,thats crazy even for guys like pog,hinault,mercxx,pantani or lemond.his durability is unmatched.

Know his vo2max is high but is there a source that verifies it's 97?

 

[kn0s]

Know his vo2max is high but is there a source that verifies it's 97?

There was a test done a long time ago by the Danish sports Federation where he did some absolutely spectacular numbers, but it has been blown way out of proportion through the years.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

There was a test done a long time ago by the Danish sports Federation where he did some absolutely spectacular numbers, but it has been blown way out of proportion through the years.

I suppose his VO2max is kept secret but I wouldn't be surprised if it's in the 90s (when in top form). Same goes for Pogacar.

 

[scribers]

107 VO2 MOU

 

[Froome]

Know his vo2max is high but is there a source that verifies it's 97?

Chords to cols: How Jonas Vingegaard went from guitars to Grand Tours

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In 2016 Rasmussen recalls his son undergoing tests while riding for Odder Cykle club - the same team that helped develop future Tour of Flanders winner Kasper Asgreen, now at Soudal Quick-Step - which revealed that he had an exceptionally high VO2 max while still just a teenager.

“They were testing all the guys in the team,” says Rasmussen. “I think there were about ten. They did seven of them and everything was normal, then they did Jonas and everything went out of order.”

According to Rasmussen, the man carrying out the test initially thought his machine was broken, such were the numbers involved.

“He said ‘oh this cannot be right, I think my machine is broken’ then he tested three other guys after that and it was normal again,” he adds. “So it was not his machine, he’d just never seen anything like that before. At 17, Jonas’ VO2 max was something around 97.” Legendary Tour de France champion Miguel Indurain’s VO2 Max has been reported at anywhere between 78 and 95 millilitres per kilogram of body weight per minute.

 

[Jack_89]

I think Jonas did a good performance thinking where he came. Obviously he's not in his best shape but managed to limit losses uphill and in the technical descent. But when he needed legs to push in the flat, he faded

 

[Peyroteo94]

He was on the limit. He got lucky they had headwind on Galibier. Now, let's see if he can improve but I fear he won't be able to fight for the win unless Pogi fades. Still, hats off for him, he is still the best GT rider IMHO due to his extraordinary recovery!

 

[Rackham]

Very good performance. The descent though should be a worry. It's evidently a leftover from his crash because last year he'd boss Pog in the descents.

 

[Froome]

This is not over. It wasn't over last year after Marie Blanque, and it isn't also over now. The real problem was the descent, he was absolutely terrified in the curves.

Now this is a question of his shape continue to improve until last week. He will be fine if starts the last 8 days of racing with a gap of 1 min/1 min and 30 s.

 

[Jack_89]

Very good performance. The descent though should be a worry. It's evidently a leftover from his crash because last year he'd boss Pog in the descents.

He lacks training. He's a better descender than Pogacar, he was also gaining seconds in the first technical section. He lost in the flat and in the final easy section

 

[Krzysztof_O]

This is not over. It wasn't over last year after Marie Blanque, and it isn't also over now. The real problem was the descent, he was absolutely terrified in the curves.

Now this is a question of his shape continue to improve until last week. He will be fine if starts the last 8 days of racing with a gap of 1 min/1 min and 30 s.

Vingo lost almost nothing in the first 7-8 km of descent. He started losing more on the more powerful and shallower section.

Obviously it's not over, there are actually a few guys still in contention.

 

[Brullnux]

I don't think he lost much time out of fear, I think he just ran out of legs and lost a lot of time on the less tricky bit.

That said, let's hope he grows into the race even more. The next ten days have seven sprints, one gravel stage where he has excellent domestiques, one TT, and one tricky but possibly not GC-relevant stage, so he has time to get up to speed.

 

[AnotherArmChair]

Benoot said its what they expected and the team thought Jonas was going to get better as the race progressed

 

[Didinho]

He pushed to the top and the first km’s downhill to try and close the gap. He blew up but tried.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Vingo lost time in the power section due to being way more on the limit than Pogacar. This was obvious! Not because he was fearing the technical part like Remco

 

[Poursuivant]

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[Valv.Piti]

Should feel lucky that it was a relativively soft mountain stage. All things considered he should feel pretty happy I think, but worries are how much time he will lose in the time trial because he doesn't really have the team to make it super hard anymore.

 

[Froome]

Vingo lost almost nothing in the first 7-8 km of descent. He started losing more on the more powerful and shallower section.

Obviously it's not over, there are actually a few guys still in contention.

That is also true, but i think he also lost about 10 s in the first section. He wasn't comfortable in the curves.

I'm confident he will improve until stage 14. He also lack some racing in his legs.