Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[Peter von]

It's not just his recovery. He always push more watts in the last week, at least in 2022 and 2023.

yes, timing of his peak then, it's always more complicated than just recovery.

 

[Froome]

Very solid ITT after what happened to him in April.

He is alive and will start the last 8/10 days of racing with a not very high disadvantage for the first place.

 

[slim charles]

Another good performance. Still don't think a win is realistic but he's better than expected.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Only stage 9 and stage 11 are a threat. He will be hard to beat if he is under 2 minutes.

 

[Froome]

Only stage 9 and stage 11 are a threat. He will be hard to beat if he is under 2 minutes.

Stage 11 can be good for him. Stage 9 is a stage of having some luck, but Visma will be strong there.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Very solid ITT after what happened to him April.

He is alive and will start the last 8/10 days of racing with a not very high disadvantage for the first place.

Yeah, he did somewhat stronger than I expected, which could also be said about stages 2 and 4. He's still in the game obviously but will probably need thermonuclear level in the last part of the Tour to win the race.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Stage 11 can be good for him. Stage 9 is a stage of having some luck, but Visma will be strong there.

It is better for Pogacar. In fact, I think he will get dropped.

 

[Froome]

Yeah, he did somewhat stronger than I expected, which could also be said about stages 2 and 4. He's still in the game obviously but will probably need thermonuclear level in the last part of the Tour to win the race.

The plan of Visma certainly is building him to be in thermonuclear shape in the last week. Let's see if it works, but 1 min and 15 s is really good before the second and final part of the Tour.


I thought stage 11 wasn't that good for Vingegaard, but the more i look for the stage, the more i think he can start doing something there, considering the lenght of the stage and the stepness of the climbs, it suits him well if he is in good shape.

 

[ppanther92]

He can still win this and thats quite insane, tbh.

 

[JosefK]

He can still win this and thats quite insane, tbh.

Week 3 should be quite a challenge for Pogi, with the Giro in his legs coming into the Tour.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

The plan of Visma certainly is building him to be in thermonuclear shape in the last week. Let's see if it works, but 1 min and 15 s is really good before the second and final part of the Tour.


I thought stage 11 wasn't that good for Vingegaard, but the more i look for the stage, the more i think he can start doing something there, considering the lenght of the stage and the stepness of the climbs, it suits him well if he is in good shape.

Obviously the Tour also depends on his rivals and I think Pogacar will be very strong at least until the Pyrenees (if Giro in legs is to catch up with him it will be later, if at all). It may likely turn out that Vingo's loss before the final weekend won't be smaller at all (maybe even bigger) and he will definitely need something special then.

 

[AnotherArmChair]

Going down is his achilles ....UAE might try to exploit this

 

[Froome]

Going down is his achilles ....UAE might try to exploit this

How many time he lost in the downhill?

 

[Peyroteo94]

How many time he lost in the downhill?

9 seconds to Pogacar.

 

[Froome]

9 seconds to Pogacar.

How many time he lost to Remco?

 

[jmdirt]

Pretty good TT JV!

 

[SHAD0W93]

Crazy rides so far, imagine how much better he could be without the crash.

Stage 11 can be good for him. Stage 9 is a stage of having some luck, but Visma will be strong there.

For stage 9 Visma should be the best GC team. So even if dropped they could bring him back in a TTT.

 

[Peyroteo94]

How many time he lost to Remco?

5 seconds

 

[Froome]

5 seconds

He is really not confident in the descents, otherwise he could minimize even more the losses, but that something that will get better in the future.

 

[Peyroteo94]

He is really not confident in the descents, otherwise he could minimize even more the losses, but that something that will get better in the future.

A top Vingegaard would be near Pogacar. Maybe ST or 5-10 seconds worse/better.

 

[Netserk]

I'm not sure if he'll be the strongest in the last week, but if he is, he will win the Tour.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I'm not sure if he'll be the strongest in the last week, but if he is, he will win the Tour.

Wow, bold statement... if Pogacar is the strongest in third week, he will win... we can say that about every single gc rider.

 

[Netserk]

Wow, bold statement... if Pogacar is the strongest in third week, he will win... we can say that about every single gc rider.

No, we cannot. It's not trivial to overcome the first two weeks' timeloss in the third, even if you're the strongest.

 

[memyselfandI]

A top Vingegaard would be near Pogacar. Maybe ST or 5-10 seconds worse/better.

Well if you take a look into last year edition second tt, you see where healthy Vingegaard could be, which is same level as Evenepoel, maybe second or two back (probably doing slight handbrake thing to let Remco win).

 

[AnotherArmChair]

Lost muscle in hospital bed ?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1809267240950243342

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