Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[RedheadDane]

I have done nothing to hide my dislike towards the guy and what he has become, but a lot of "hate" posts have also been for humorous reasons, and I've also defended him against what I've found to be unfair criticism multiple times and will continue to do so.

You made a thread for a guy you dislike? Or did you like him better when he was simply some guy without (at the time) a German Wikipedia page?
And how is becoming a two-time TdF-winner bad?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

You made a thread for a guy you dislike? Or did you like him better when he was simply some guy without (at the time) a German Wikipedia page?
And how is becoming a two-time TdF-winner bad?

Of course I liked him better then. I root for underdogs most of the time, and who's more underrated than a guy who gets mistaken for a teammate while winning?

The main reason I don't like him is due to things that can't be discussed in this part of the forum, so let's just say that I want my Danish riders to be competitive, but not dominating.

 

[theyoungest]

Agree fully, think Jumbo LAB will be exposed when they will try to make the mountain stages hard and set up Vinge for an attack. A Kuss in last year's shape will be sorley missed, Hooydonck and van Baarle also. They have to hope Ineos will really try to make it hard to tire out Remco; Castro, Kwia, de Plus, Pidders, G and Bernal could do some real damage, but C-rod must be feeling good for it to happen.

Kuss is the only one they're really missing. And it's big one, since he can ride everyone bar Pogi and Vingo off his wheel. And a good Wout Van Aert is worth his weight in gold as well.

Kelderman seems to have found some good form though. And Jorgenson can maybe recover a bit from his crash. They're all a bit battered and bruised, but his team is not that bad really. If they want to make the race hard they can still do it.

 

[theyoungest]

The main reason I don't like him is due to things that can't be discussed in this part of the forum, so let's just say that I want my Danish riders to be competitive, but not dominating.

Everything that has been said about Vingegaard in that regard can also be said in this part of the forum, since it's nothing substantial. Only that he's riding really fast. Well yes, he is. That's the point of this sport.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Everything that has been said about Vingegaard in that regard can also be said in this part of the forum, since it's nothing substantial. Only that he's riding really fast. Well yes, he is. That's the point of this sport.

Well you don't really know I want to say, and I'm pretty sure it would be against forum rules if posted here.

 

[inri2000]

Of course I liked him better then. I root for underdogs most of the time, and who's more underrated than a guy who gets mistaken for a teammate while winning?

The main reason I don't like him is due to things that can't be discussed in this part of the forum, so let's just say that I want my Danish riders to be competitive, but not dominating.

So you dislike him because he dominates but if he was average no one would stop Pogacar from dominating every semi hilly race he enters, seems like odd logic

I haven't noticed the title changes, so from my point of view keep trolling if it makes you happy

 

[Medvind]

Kuss is the only one they're really missing. And it's big one, since he can ride everyone bar Pogi and Vingo off his wheel. And a good Wout Van Aert is worth his weight in gold as well.

Kelderman seems to have found some good form though. And Jorgenson can maybe recover a bit from his crash. They're all a bit battered and bruised, but his team is not that bad really. If they want to make the race hard they can still do it.

Nah, van Aert seems to be lacking a bit of form this year, and I don't think Tratnik and Lemmen are as strong as van Baarle and Hooydonck, who in my book played a crucial role last year tiring out Pog by going hard for a long time on false flats and lower gradient mountains. But sure, I might be wrong. Guess we will see.

 

[tobydawq]

I'll return to your points later. I'm too tilted at the moment after Rogla's crash.

Cycling is too cruel at times.

 

[theyoungest]

Nah, van Aert seems to be lacking his climbing legs a bit, and I don't think Tratnik and Lemmen are as strong as van Baarle and Hooydonck, who in my book played a crucial role last year tiring out Pog by going hard for a long time on false flats and lower gradient mountains. But sure, I might be wrong. Guess we will see.

I said a good Wout Van Aert, which is not this year's version. Still a pretty useful rider though.

Lemmen should be able to set a higher pace uphill than Van Hooydonck. He's a way better climber. But in this Tour he's mostly used as a bottle carrier and the first guy to work on the front, so you don't really see it.

 

[tobydawq]

Your danish? I saw Valv pitti was from darmark and he didnt like Vingegaard even. How is people from danmark not even liking him?

I am Danish too and don't like him at all.

He's too boring away from the bike and frankly too annoyingly good.

 

[The Clogger]

Your danish? I saw Valv pitti was from darmark and he didnt like Vingegaard even. How is people from danmark not even liking him?

Same weird people who would root for the English national team against Denmark in football because they supported Liverpool or some other club from their couch. You won't see Slovenians dislike Pogacar or Roglic.

Thread should be handed over immediately to Froome or anyone else who isn't petty and openly hating on Vingegaard.

 

[theyoungest]

Your danish? I saw Valv pitti was from darmark and he didnt like Vingegaard even. How is people from danmark not even liking him?

Is everyone from his native country obliged to like him? Vingegaard has plenty of Danish fans, it seems. Looking at Visma's social media, I'd even say only Danish fans Of course there's a few guys who want to be contrarian.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Your danish? I saw Valv pitti was from darmark and he didnt like Vingegaard even. How is people from danmark not even liking him?

As far as I've understood from posters on here, Roglič is more popular in Slovenia than Pogačar.

I think Vingegaard has many fans in Denmark. Whether he's the most liked one, I can't really say, but he's definitely not my favourite.

 

[Peyroteo94]

As far as I've understood from posters on here, Roglič is more popular in Slovenia than Pogačar.

I think Vingegaard has many fans in Denmark. Whether he's the most liked one, I can't really say, but he's definitely not my favourite.

I would like to know how they access that.

 

[The Clogger]

Wow I didnt know.
I dont like him either like most cause of the way he rides. I find it impossible to like that way of riding and its just something off for me he is hard to root for that I knew and get but didnt know that even applied to danish people and thats tells it all pretty much. Learn something new every day



That ive heard but yeah still surprised.

Don't fool yourself. You don't like him because he beats your favorite rider. Nearly every Dane is of course a fan of him, but there will always be a few weirdos on the internet. Luckily for everyone, they account for 0.000001% of Danish cycling fans.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

So you dislike him because he dominates but if he was average no one would stop Pogacar from dominating every semi hilly race he enters, seems like odd logic

I haven't noticed the title changes, so from my point of view keep trolling if it makes you happy

I appreciate that there are riders who keep one man from winning everything, but I don't necessarily want them to be Danish.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Don't fool yourself. You don't like him because he beats your favorite rider. Nearly every Dane is of course a fan of him, but there will always be a few weirdos on the internet. Luckily for everyone, they account for 0.000001% of Danish cycling fans.

Lol, this is as worse as an assessment as Scarponi's claim that all Remco fans hates Roglič.

 

[theyoungest]

Lol, this is as worse as an assessment as Scarponi's claim that all Remco fans hates Roglič.

I can understand the sentiment. Personally I can't stand Max Verstappen, and part of the reason is that he's like "Muhammad for Dutch white people" as a comedian put it. I sense a similar vibe in the Danes who dislike Vingegaard

 

[Froome]

The main reason I don't like him is due to things that can't be discussed in this part of the forum, so let's just say that I want my Danish riders to be competitive, but not dominating.

You can't like any rider, especially the top riders.

 

[topcat]

Samu: Grow a pair of balls and go back to the title: The Chicken who eats Riis for breakfast.

 

[The Clogger]

Lol, this is as worse as an assessment as Scarponi's claim that all Remco fans hates Roglič.

You can change the comma to the left a few times but I've yet to meet a Dane who doesn't cheer for Vingegaard when the topic is cycling

 

[The Clogger]

seems to be quite alot here. That has nothing to do for me in that case I would cheer for him over Pogacar and dislike Evenpoel more than Vingegaard. I simply wondered.

I wonder though if Pogacar has something to do with him beeing so disliked genuinly? Perception is key and Pogacar is pretty much god and impossible to not like, that might has something to do with it idk?

but at the same time its hard to like him for me so I guess that just applies to others. (still made me sad watching him cry ngl I feelt bad for not liking him in a way tbh I wish I could though its just hard for when I feel i have to make excuses to like him, nothing to do with Pogacar at all I dont know how to say it its weird)

But he isn't disliked. You can go read comments on YouTube or Reddit and you'll se he have plenty of followers and fans.

The internet, especially an anonymous forum, and the real world are two different realities.

Sure, Pogacar have more fans as he is easy going, active on social media, always attacking and smiling, but that doesn't mean Vingegaard is disliked at all. Though there will always be fans of rivals of Vingegaard claiming "Vingegaard is boring" etc. and using that as an excuse to hate the guy, mainly because he beats their favorite rider. Just like it is in every sport, look at Messi/Ronaldo debates.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

You can't like any rider, especially the top riders.

Again until I reveal my reasons in the clinic (which will probably happen sometime tomorrow), you won't know what I mean.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Samu: Grow a pair of balls and go back to the title: The Chicken who eats Riis for breakfast.

Somehow I feel like since your last profile picture change you‘ve ascended another step away from common cycling commentary to the point that this is your most normal post since then. How is it up there?

 

[kn0s]

Good old boring Jonas. That horse is so dead it's already sausage.