Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

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But he isn't disliked. You can go read comments on YouTube or Reddit and you'll se he have plenty of followers and fans.

The internet, especially an anonymous forum, and the real world are two different realities.

Sure, Pogacar have more fans as he is easy going, active on social media, always attacking and smiling, but that doesn't mean Vingegaard is disliked at all. Though there will always be fans of rivals of Vingegaard claiming "Vingegaard is boring" etc. and using that as an excuse to hate the guy, mainly because he beats their favorite rider. Just like it is in every sport, look at Messi/Ronaldo debates.

agreed.

I am largely a remco fan.

And I also love Pog's attacking style.

however, I would rather Vingo beat Pog in the TDF.

Why?

Because it is boring to have someone who is the best at literally everything and every type of race. It's good that everyone has some form of kryptonite. Makes it more competitive and dramatic.
 
But he isn't disliked. You can go read comments on YouTube or Reddit and you'll se he have plenty of followers and fans.

The internet, especially an anonymous forum, and the real world are two different realities.
Not that I disagree but I hope you see the irony of this comment :) Using Youtube and Reddit as evidence of the real world.
 
Somehow I feel like since your last profile picture change you‘ve ascended another step away from common cycling commentary to the point that this is your most normal post since then. How is it up there?
I'm the most normal person I know. Common cycling commentary is either stating the obvious or being flat out wrong (through lack of understanding or hysterical bias). I try not to get bogged down in it. I'm here to enjoy the show and have a few laughs along the way (I'm enjoying it more not cheering for or against any rider). Que sera, sera.
 
Don't fool yourself. You don't like him because he beats your favorite rider. Nearly every Dane is of course a fan of him, but there will always be a few weirdos on the internet. Luckily for everyone, they account for 0.000001% of Danish cycling fans.

Please.

I'm not a weirdo on the internet. I'm a real person. My two cycling watching friends are also rooting for Pogi.

0.000001% would be one in 100 million people.

Get a grip.
 
I asked my Danish friend how the Danes feel about Jonas. He said "Alle fra Danmark elsker Jonas". This translates to "Everyone from Denmark loves Jonas" (according to Google Translate).;)
I asked the same question to my Danish friend. And she said: "I'm a Barbie girl, in a Barbie world. Life in plastic, it's fantastic".

So that was pretty useless.
 
Don't fool yourself. You don't like him because he beats your favorite rider. Nearly every Dane is of course a fan of him, but there will always be a few weirdos on the internet. Luckily for everyone, they account for 0.000001% of Danish cycling fans.
Weird take.

I'm Danish too.

And now I allow myself to overlook the bend and take a slightly larger arc out into the rocks, since things on my mind were ignited by this comment.

When I began to follow cycling in the late 1970ies I perhaps felt a bit like a 'weirdo', since probably "0.000001%" of the Danish population followed cycling back then.

When I was a kid, I was probably very one-eyed about nationality, but I think it quickly evaporated, half due to endless disappointments (just like following the Danish national soccer team before the professional players was allowed to participate in the national squad), but largely also because the foreign riders I admired and got as early idols (besides profile name riders like Saronni, Criquielion, Hinault, Fignon, Anderson, Lejaretta) made a big impression on me.

However, I readily admit to being marked by rather stronger national feelings during my "Christmas Eve", the World Championships, which have been a highlight for me for as long as I remember and didn't think my heart would survive that unforgettable delightfully wet day in Harrogate - a weather a 'weirdo' that I love to give it a full blast myself on training trips (perhaps because the multi-allergy is held back and it feels like more oxygen gets to where it needs to be used, well another talk).

And it has struck me before that I am happy on behalf of all Slovenians, and now Eritreans too - and thoughts and hopes that they are now going through what my own country went through in the 80s and 90s and the first wave of popular Danish riders and the huge progress of cycling clubs and the general interest in cycling that has given, so that I am no longer the 0.000001% weirdo who passionately follows cycling, but on the contrary has been overtaken inside by many of my compatriots, just because I lose the chain for a quarter of a second here and there.

That's really the gist of my answer - I'm indescribably happy that the interest in cycling has now become so huge that it is not just a micro-sport or only for the traditional cycing nations like Belgium, Italy and France, but one of the main sports in general on a global level.

Where just 10 years ago we would have shook our heads if a weirdo had claimed that in a decade the Tour would be dominated by Slovenians, Danes and an Eritrean

I like cycling very much, both as a passive viewer and an active cyclist, regardless of the nationality of the rider. Of course, I can honestly say that I'm rooting for Jonas. But I'm rooting for Pogi, Remco and Roglic just as much - the latter of which I can feel it eating away at my heart to be a fan of (recent days really hurt here).

And then I just make sure to enjoy these very special cycling years, which give us so many fantastic experiences as cycling viewers.

That's why it also annoys me when cycling forums become toxic, where in an almost soccer-fan manner it is turned into a divide-and-conquer battle, where the energy is born of hatred aka "if you're a fan of that rider, you hate is nearest and dearest to his competitor" logics.

I am a fan of cycling and not a soccer fan, and that has really always been the difference between the two types of fans. But I can feel that soccer fans have started to invade - and then a former soccer player - but the latter just adds a bit of spice with slightly different language like here the other day. I can easily chuckle at that.

Just as I can easily cope with somewhat "harsh" title changes on this thread, especially those with puns and dark humor.

And I don't think it's difficult to understand what the thread starter is referring to with regard to 'dislike' when it is mentioned that it belongs to another section. It's completely fair in my world, I think the different thread titles have been fair and something I also think Jonas himself would smile at. His second thread in the second section has probably not changed terribly, here, for my sake, you could also just let loose, but it seems to be looked at a little more seriously.

So, in short, I cheer for Jonas, but I cheer just as much for the other "big three" as well as every rider, nomatter nationality of who contributes to the story of a bike race.

In my world, they deliver so much in their own way and sell our sport so that I don't want to do without any of them. If some of my compatriots want to call me 'weirdo', I only have the same answer as Jonas had to various journalists last week, 'it doesn't concern me'.

Finally, just go ahead with the title changes @Samu Cuenca - I like them.
That is, if any energy is left for you spending more time on a rider you dislike :p
 
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And then there is this, the comparison with Armstrong that was alluded to just seems ridiculous as he was probably the biggest *** cycling has seen in a long time
View: https://x.com/CenterIceView/status/1811403015280263637


I also dislike when one rider dominates for years, but we don't know how close things would have gotten last year if Pogacar decided to race a bit more with his head instead of always letting himself be controlled by instinct as he simply has not tried that yet, and his recent quotes indicate he won't be trying anytime soon

The clinic stuff is pointless to speculate on without evidence, especially singling out one rider (unless he completely drops the mask like Floyd Landis lol), and if you can't separate that from your thoughts posted on this side of the forum, then consider taking a step back and being less active
 
absolutely.

And thankfully Vinge isn't the only one willing to show it, but I do think he shows it with more vulnerability than many others.
His wife is also some kind of mentor to him, she's the one who taught him how to deal with his nerves, which reportedly were quite extreme before (he was too nervous to win the Tour of Poland, let alone the Tour de France). She's also quite a bit older than him. It's an interesting relationship, but if it keeps him happy and grounded to call her directly after every stage, why the hell not?

Vingegaard is a very introverted guy, to such an extent that it wouldn't surprise me if he's somewhere on the spectrum, and some people can't handle that. That's fine.