Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[YavorD]

Gone are the days when CN was a cycling forum.
It's full of doctors now.
Time to rename it to medical community forum or something 😄?

 

[E_F_]

Is forum.thelancet.com taken?

 

[Netserk]

Gone are the days when CN was a cycling forum.
It's full of doctors now.
Time to rename it to medical community forum or something 😄?

The Clinic?

 

[repre]

Realistically his only real goal this year is the Tour. All the rest is bonus.

where he will be second regardless

 

[scribers]

The Clinic?

That’s turned into a science fiction writers workshop

 

[Froome]

Realistically his only real goal this year is the Tour. All the rest is bonus.

Tour + Vuelta.

 

[Sandisfan]

Gone are the days when CN was a cycling forum.
It's full of doctors now.
Time to rename it to medical community forum or something 😄?

The Clinic?

That’s turned into a science fiction writers workshop

The only time I went there to that place in the words of Obi Wan "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy" As an allegory but my visit was an aside where I was mentioned with my user man @-ed. LOL

 

[Berniece]

He is skipping Catalunya. Probably won't see him until Dauphine

 

[Monsi]

Maybe there’s a chance he’ll ride Romandie or Itzulia instead.

 

[Pozzovivo]

He is skipping Catalunya. Probably won't see him until Dauphine

Completely fair to skip Volta Cat., but I find it very disappointing if goes missing for 3 months.

I don't see why contusions to one hand is keeping him from racing for that kinda period. Let's hope for romandie or dear-I-say-it the ardennes? Imagine if Pog, Remco and Jonas are doing Amstel, Fleche and LBL

 

[AmRacer]

Completely fair to skip Volta Cat., but I find it very disappointing if goes missing for 3 months.

I don't see why contusions to one hand is keeping him from racing for that kinda period. Let's hope for romandie or dear-I-say-it the ardennes?

Jonas and Remco doing Romandie.

 

[Pozzovivo]

Jonas and Remco doing Romandie.

Confirmed?!

 

[Netserk]

Itzulia or nothing before Dauphiné. Romandie is obviously not even an option.

 

[Salvarani]

Completely fair to skip Volta Cat., but I find it very disappointing if goes missing for 3 months.

I don't see why contusions to one hand is keeping him from racing for that kinda period. Let's hope for romandie or dear-I-say-it the ardennes? Imagine if Pog, Remco and Jonas are doing Amstel, Fleche and LBL

They dont want to take any risks at all with him, given last year.

Maybe just train, do altitude. More family time. Then race Dauphine and Tour. I guess it would still be a better preparation than last season when he did his best numbers.

Maybe dont want to go to Basque again and Romandie could make sense instead. Just for the race days.

 

[Pozzovivo]

Itzulia or nothing before Dauphiné. Romandie is obviously not even an option.

Why Itzulia or nothing, and why is no TdR obvious?

 

[Netserk]

Why Itzulia or nothing, and why is no TdR obvious?

Because he rides for Visma and not Ineos. They don't prepare for the Tour like that.

 

[Pozzovivo]

They dont want to take any risks at all with him, given last year.

Maybe just train, do altitude. Race Dauphine and Tour. Still a better preparation than last season when he did his best numbers.

I see what you are saying, but I don't see how crashing last year should impact his race program this year?

And, it's also a risk not to race him - if he crashes out badly at, say, dauphine, then they (V-LAB) got zero return on their biggest investment all year.

 

[Pozzovivo]

Because he rides for Visma and not Ineos. They don't prepare for the Tour like that.

Genuine Q, why does Visma think TdR hamper TDF form?

Lemmen and Tratnik did Romandie - Tour last year. Probably not the plan to select them for TDF though. Yet, Kuss and Kruisjwijk did both in 2022. Kruisjwijk, Kuss and T. Martin did both in 2021. It's not that obvious to me?

 

[Salvarani]

I see what you are saying, but I don't see how crashing last year should impact his race program this year?

And, it's also a risk not to race him - if he crashes out badly at, say, dauphine, then they (V-LAB) got zero return on their biggest investment all year.

I agree with you on that but Vinge seems like he has to be managed pretty carefully. It is probably more of a personal and individual thing. Crashes and things not going to plan doesnt seem to be something he takes lightly.

 

[Froome]

Completely fair to skip Volta Cat., but I find it very disappointing if goes missing for 3 months.

I don't see why contusions to one hand is keeping him from racing for that kinda period. Let's hope for romandie or dear-I-say-it the ardennes? Imagine if Pog, Remco and Jonas are doing Amstel, Fleche and LBL

Maybe he is still with a lot of pain in the hand.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I'm sure they will improvise with his schedule. Once he feels fully ready they will add some race in the spring. Not that there are no options.

 

[Pozzovivo]

I agree with you on that but Vinge seems like he has to be managed pretty carefully. It is probably more of a personal and individual thing. Crashes and things not going to plan doesnt seem to be something he takes lightly.

You're right. Hard to know from a distance of course. I really hope to see him race before dauphine though as so much of the best racing happen in the coming period.

 

[Rou]

Very disappointed that Jonas will miss Catalunya. He will probably do Itzulia now which I see no sense in doing. He has already won it and the profile is worse than Catalunya for a GT preparation. IMO the crash from Paris-Nice is just an excuse. His hand injury is not that serious and he can always ride with hand and wrist support.
The real reason why Visma won't send him to Catalunya is because Jonas' level currently is far below his standarts and they don't want to see him pummeled by Roglic and Ayuso. I'm dead serious about this.

 

[Froome]

His hand injury is not that serious and he can always ride with hand and wrist support.

A excuse just like the excuse of pogacar in the Tour 2023 because of the wrist injury, right?

It wasn't because of that, he was spanked on La Loze, "i'm gone, i'm dead".

 

[Berniece]

He has already won it and the profile is worse than Catalunya for a GT preparation.

I don't think it was chosen as a preparation of a GT. This is just spring season and they chose races that fit his strengths best.