Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

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His crash really affected him. He is afraid of racing in wet conditions, acted like a prima donna in PN. Hope he can surpass this fear in the future.
I'd like to think back to his interviews after his crash in Basque country and how he said that he seriously thought that he was going do die that day and then whilst in the hospital he had serious feelings of quitting professional cycling altogether. With this in mind, you do really wonder where his heart lies whenever he suffers setbacks.
 
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I'd like to think back to his interviews after his crash in Basque country and how he said that he seriously thought that he was going do die that day and then whilst in the hospital he had serious feelings of quitting professional cycling altogether. With this in mind, you do really wonder where his heart lies in this moment whenever he suffers setbacks.
Yeah and after seeing his interview about his children doing cycling in the future and his answer was a big "No", he is really on the edge of giving up on professional cycling.
 
I know I know, it's more the 'he's not riding because he's xxx' stuff, not just here but I can see it all over social media. The default should be believing people who say they are hurt unless they've given reason to suggest they are untrustworthy, which he hasn't.
I truly believe he is hurt now, but to suggest there is no reason to suspect he is untrustworthy is delusional.
 
It was rather obvious Jonas won't be ready in ten days time, considering severity of the injury. As for being in the form or not being in the form debate. I feel that at Algarve Jonas made it clear, he is/was in rather good form. Somehow i doubt we will see Jonas racing before Dauphiné. As for mental weakness debate, although being a team leader takes its toll, for now i don't see any substantial issues in this department. It's just that the crash occurred and Jonas got injured, that is all there is to it.
 
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The thing is at the Tour your (grand)parents would do the same to you too. It's normal.
It is not about doing that (attacking teammates). I find it absolutely fine to attack. However, if there is an agreement beforehand and you break it that means you are devious. On top of that saying stuff about doing it for family is insufferable.
Just be a man and say I ride for the win even if it is against a teammate, just like Rogla.
 
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As for Jonas apologising for his behaviour at the Vuelta and in general for slaying the king. No need for that, the wound was luckily not fatal, the king is back and has a mighty army at his side.

All in all they will sort it out on the road.
 
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It is not about doing that (attacking teammates). I find it absolutely fine to attack. However, if there is an agreement beforehand and you break it that means you are devious. On top of that saying stuff about doing it for family is insufferable.
Just be a man and say I ride for the win even if it is against a teammate, just like Rogla.

In men defence it's not always easy to be a man.
 
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Mate, no excuses from me. I am convinced that Pogacar would have still LOST in 2023 even with perfect preparation. Jonas was just better than him in 2023. I'm being real.
Yes, he would lose 2023 TdF and 2024 TdF too if he didn't change the coach. Without heat training and training for longer climbs and stages with high Kj expenditure, he couldn't win Stage 15 last year. Even after they lost Stage 14, VLAB & Jonas were still 100% convinced that if they used their cheat code on Stage 15, Pog would crumble as usual. All the tears after that stage were the realization that 2024 Pog is not the same as 2023 Pog and that the TdF was lost.
 
I think you know what the wrong Roglic did by blaming Wright for that crash was...
I analyzed this crash when it happened and it is obvious to me that Fred braced for impact and was fully aware that a crash would happen if he did not react to prevent it. And he did not react and he did not prevent it and he brought Rogla down. Rogla was unaware that Fred was there, that is also pretty obvious, otherwise he would have braced for impact as well.
Your opinion might differ and there have been some people defending Fred but these are all English speaking and most of us consume English language media so the bias is obvious.
If this is the best example of bad/deceitful/insufferable behavior by Rogla, it is nothing compared to Vingo.
 
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I analyzed this crash when it happened and it is obvious to me that Fred braced for impact and was fully aware that a crash would happen if he did not react to prevent it. And he did not react and he did not prevent it and he brought Rogla down. Rogla was unaware that Fred was there, that is also pretty obvious, otherwise he would have braced for impact as well.
Your opinion might differ and there have been some people defending Fred but these are all English speaking and most of us consume English language media so the bias is obvious.
If this is the best example of bad/deceitful/insufferable behavior by Rogla, it is nothing compared to Vingo.
Suggestion for the roglic camp to which I would count myself: This is too bonkers, lets instead go into the "but my guy hurt his wrist more"-debate, because vinge and pog are both sissies compared to rog.
 
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Suggestion for the roglic camp to which I would count myself: This is too bonkers, lets instead go into the "but my guy hurt his wrist more"-debate, because vinge and pog are both sissies compared to rog.
I do not believe that. A hurt wrist is an injury that should never be glossed over when it comes to cycling. It is a critical part of the body to be able to ride safely.
I also believe that besides concussion checks (which should happen but rarely do (as we saw in Vingo's case)) grip strength/wrist maneuverability check should be mandatory after a crash. Otherwise, the sport is not really serious when it comes to safety.
 

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