Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

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Have we ever had a proper Remco vs Jonas race? It seems like it just never happens. We either have Jonas vs Pog or Roglic vs Remco.
 
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Vingegaard is extremely positive about his shape in danish interviews, claims he's definitely stronger than last year without any problems at all during the season and a program which only focused on a few stage races. Remember, his winter was not the greatest last year, and he had problems in the Ardennes (and raced them for whatever reasons, and subsequently abandoned). This time around everything has gone perfectly, and he says its nice to win some stage races, but everything is for the Tour

Makes sense. Cannot see how he can't win Dauphine, his the best time trialist and climber in this bunch.
 
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Vingegaard is extremely positive about his shape in danish interviews, claims he's definitely stronger without any problems at all during the season and a program which only focused on a few stage races.


Makes sense. Cannot see how he can't win Dauphine, his the best time trialist and climber in this bunch.
He can lose by crashing uphil.

In reality, I mostly just wonder how aggressively he's gonna race the Dauphine, considering it's still a training race so he probably won't wanna go too hard.
 
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He can lose by crashing uphil.

In reality, I mostly just wonder how aggressively he's gonna race the Dauphine, considering it's still a training race so he probably won't wanna go too hard.
Its really just a question by how much he wins by if no bad luck.

Time trial and Croix de Fer should be enough testing.
 
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Also last year the TDF it was sunny and hot for literally 21 stages. Could be different this Tour, or could be the same.
 
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To me, Jonas looks a bit too skinny..Could be an issue in a Tour later on, with attacks from far out from Pogačar in third week..We will see.
 
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To me, Jonas looks a bit too skinny..Could be an issue in a Tour later on, with attacks from far out from Pogačar in third week..We will see.

Not gonna lie, he didn't look too fat during his interview :p But maybe it's still not his limit and they can make him even thinner? (Pogi had better lose his fat!)
 
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He looked horrible during an interview today 🤣 and last meters of the ITT, he was pedalling like squares, totally empty and exhausted. Lost more than 30 sec to Bjerg on a climb. Too optimistic start is never OK
 
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He looked horrible during an interview today 🤣 and last meters of the ITT, he was pedalling like squares, totally empty and exhausted. Lost more than 30 sec to Bjerg on a climb. Too optimistic start is never OK
Yet he was, by far, the best of the GC guys. Especially the more pure climbers like Bernal, Carapaz, Mas and Landa lost buckets of time to the point where he can give them a minute and don't threatened.

Seemed like pacing was a problem for literally everyone of those guys.
 
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Yet he was, by far, the best of the GC guys. Especially the more pure climbers like Bernal, Carapaz, Mas and Landa lost buckets of time to the point where he can give them a minute and don't threatened.

Seemed like pacing was a problem for literally everyone of those guys.
Indeed. But none of those ever in their life had a great ITT. The question is how much time he could (if) put into Pogačar, Remco, Roglič, Thomas..
 
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Indeed. But none of those ever in their life had a great ITT. The question is how much time he could (if) put into Pogačar, Remco, Roglič, Thomas..

He doesn't need to be in his top form here, probably even shouldn't. Still a very solid ride. Let's see what happens in the mountains, he will want to test his engine on some stage and his rivals are very strong climbers.
 
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He doesn't need to be in his top form here, probably even shouldn't. Still a very solid ride. Let's see what happens in the mountains, he will want to test his engine on some stage and his rivals are very strong climbers.
Good point. Every year when folks start making confident Tour projections from performances in the Dauphine, my brain immediately flashes an alert: “Iban Mayo.” ;)
 
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Good point. Every year when folks start making confident Tour projections from performances in the Dauphine, my brain immediately flashes an alert: “Iban Mayo.” ;)

Ah, it's a pity we didn't see a top form Mayo at the Tour in 2004. He was monstrous at the Dauphine. It's said that he peaked too soon (and had bad luck as well) but I've also heard theories that the Big Texan was upset with the Basque's level and made a few calls to important people.
 
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That Tour was also such a shitshow. Terrible weather and no mountain before what, stage 11 or 12? Very similar to the atrocity of the 2006 route.
if you were a pure climber, that was a hard one to get through.

A weird Tour were every one of the big favorites really disappointed apart from LA, and the rather young Basso proved to be the strongest contender now instead of Vino, Ulle, Mayo etc as the year before. He was never a threat though.
 
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Ah, it's a pity we didn't see a top form Mayo at the Tour in 2004. He was monstrous at the Dauphine. It's said that he peaked too soon (and had bad luck as well) but I've also heard theories that the Big Texan was upset with the Basque's level and made a few calls to important people.
And also with Tyler Hamilton and Phonak in General (5 guys in the top10 in the opening uphill prologue and Bufalo Gutierrez beating Rasmussen and Leipheimer in the Ventoux MTT).
 
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And also with Tyler Hamilton and Phonak in General (5 guys in the top10 in the opening uphill prologue and Bufalo Gutierrez beating Rasmussen and Leipheimer in the Ventoux MTT).

Yup, Hamilton could've been Armstrong's most dangerous rival but bad luck struct him again. He wouldn't have folded in the last long TT (which would've probably been the case with Mayo). Bad luck of his top rivals was astonishing that year.
 
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That Tour was also such a shitshow. Terrible weather and no mountain before what, stage 11 or 12? Very similar to the atrocity of the 2006 route.
if you were a pure climber, that was a hard one to get through.

A weird Tour were every one of the big favorites really disappointed apart from LA, and the rather young Basso proved to be the strongest contender now instead of Vino, Ulle, Mayo etc as the year before. He was never a threat though.
At least 2006 had a few proper mountain stages to compensate for that.
 
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Yet he was, by far, the best of the GC guys. Especially the more pure climbers like Bernal, Carapaz, Mas and Landa lost buckets of time to the point where he can give them a minute and don't threatened.

Seemed like pacing was a problem for literally everyone of those guys.
It seems to me that it happens so much when there's a climb early in a TT riders tend to blow themselves up in the first part.
 
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Can we stop now saying that vingegaard winning is not good for the sport, and that he is not entertaining?!
I mean he followed a rider, then that rider blew up and he rode away from him. At least he‘s better than the riders who sit behind their teammates as long as possible but this wasn‘t really peak entertainment either. Already a better race than the Giro, still
 
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