Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[theyoungest]

Eisel basically is of the opinion that Vingegaard rides the Vuelta out of boredom and will be unmotivated to do serious training at altitude for example. I wonder where gets that idea from. Odd take.

At this point I think Jumbo are glad to see all these ridiculous takes from so-called "experts". It puts them in the underdog role everytime. Which is what you want, of course.

 

[Didinho]

Which rider spot does he take? Yesterday they announced the starters but now Vingo also. Kuss still riding?

 

[theyoungest]

Which rider spot does he take? Yesterday they announced the starters but now Vingo also. Kuss still riding?

Jumbo haven't announced the starters. Just a preliminary startlist from PCS or whatever. Plugge did mention Kuss, which would surprise me but Jumbo tend to stick to the plan. Tratnik says he wants to ride. Valter makes sense, as does Kelderman.

 

[SHAD0W93]

He still planted him on Ventoux.

Except he was still 5 mins down and got caught on the descent. Was he stronger that day, yes but Pog also didn’t go into the red since Vinge was so far behind and they had the descent to catch him. Vinge got yo-yo’d. All three, Carapaz, were equal in the final week mountains with none being able to drop the other despite attempts from all and Pog sprinting away from them at the finish.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

The team should definitely include Roglic, vinegärd, tratnik, vallter, kelderman and bouwman. That's really strong team. Then just some rouleur like affini and 1 more climber. Kruijsvijk, gesink or Foss

 

[Didinho]

Jumbo haven't announced the starters. Just a preliminary startlist from PCS or whatever. Plugge did mention Kuss, which would surprise me but Jumbo tend to stick to the plan. Tratnik says he wants to ride. Valter makes sense, as does Kelderman.

They were saying 8 riders yesterday on Sporza. Kuss, Foss, Bouwman, Valter are the names I remember. So I thought they had the startlist from Jumbo.

 

[Peter von]

Which rider spot does he take? Yesterday they announced the starters but now Vingo also. Kuss still riding?

I think they will do some fitness tests and monitoring in weeks leading up to the race and decide.
For the riders that didn’t do the Tour they’ll have some prep race to look at as well.

if I were to bet i would say it’s Kuss because of the number of race days. but I don’t think they decide before they have to.

 

[hfer07]

So,
Vinge ready to attempt the double, huh? great

 

[perico]

Actually for vineggard (and also pogacar) it's the perfect year to try tour and la vuelta double. There is an extra week between tour and vuelta, usually it's 4 weeks but this year 5, so it gives an extra week to do a training camp after some post-tdf rest.

And also for vinegaard , roglic will take the pressure off. He had his most dominant season, winning itzulia, dauphine and tour, he doesn't have to prove anything, he can try what it's like to go for 2 grand tours on a season without the pressure of the expectations of teams and fans on his shoulder. The team should focus on roglic.

It took froome several seasons to perfect the tour-vuelta preparation and do the double.

Even then, Froome only had Nibali (who to be fair was a great rider) and Zakarin who had specifically targeted the Vuelta. Gad Contador not ridden the Tour and ridden a Giro/Vuelta combo it could’ve ended up a different result.

That’s the difference with Froome’s win. Roglic, Remco, Ayuso, technically Carapaz and Mas (depending on their recovery), won’t have an intense duel with Pogacar in their legs and won’t have the fatigue build up.

 

[RedheadDane]

Danish TV has been talking a lot about how he's the first Dane to defend a TdF title.

I guess he was slightly better friends with his TT bike, than Riis was in 1997.

 

[yaco]

What if Ayuso and Remco are in top form?

And Vingegaard will probably not be in top form.

This is a difficult Vuelta route - Ayuso and Remco will have their work cut out.

 

[Netserk]

He said that he already wanted to go to the Vuelta last year.

 

[Valv.Piti]

He said that he already wanted to go to the Vuelta last year.

Where and when did he say that?

I mean, it makes a lot of sense to me. There's not anything to do for him after Tour de France apart from Lombardia, and he has proven he's not very good targetting that race. The Vuelta good serve as a race for him just like it did for Froome who also didn't have anything better to do and try to target it. Both riders loved the heat as well and pretty much isn't made for racing anything else than hard stage races.

So very good on him for doing that. Its a lot better than Tour of fricking Croatia.

 

[Nick2413]

What if Ayuso and Remco are in top form?

And Vingegaard will probably not be in top form.

Remco might be about to win a lot of fans that were previously haters.

 

[Red Rick]

He said that he already wanted to go to the Vuelta last year.

Did he say why he didn't go?

Cause it wasn't like Roglic was a beacon of health guaranteed leader this time last year

 

[Netserk]

Where and when did he say that?

To TV2 on tv.

 

[Red Rick]

Dutch commentator today: "Tomorrow Vingegaard starts in the Boxmeer criterium. It will be his first one day race of the season"

 

[Valv.Piti]

To TV2 on tv.

Then why in the world wasn't he racing? Makes no sense considering 1) Roglic wasn't completely healthy and 2) Roglic is crash-prone, and crashed out of a GT again.

 

[jaylew]

Could be the best GT field of the year, GC-wise:

Roglic
Vingegaard
Remco
Ayuso
Almeida
Thomas
Mas
Carapaz
Vlasov
Carthy

And the Angliru. My mouth is already watering.

 

[Peter von]

Then why in the world wasn't he racing? Makes no sense considering 1) Roglic wasn't completely healthy and 2) Roglic is crash-prone, and crashed out of a GT again.

He didn’t get into that so we don’t know. maybe they wanted to see how his post-Tour recovery went or something like that?
Maybe the team owed a favour to race director of Cro Race?

 

[Netserk]

It clearly wasn't planned for him to go last year, but even if he wanted to go, it wasn't clear if it was just an impulsive desire for more or if he immediately after the Tour asked and insisted to go. In any case, to make sure that he would go this year, they made it a plan in November.

 

[RedheadDane]

He has sure come a long way since he lost over 14 minutes because he was so nervous when he was leading a pro race for the first time.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Contrary to what I thought, the Durango kid wants to ride his 3rd GT

https://twitter.com/x/status/1683138657895456772

 

[proffate]

n this event Jonas has been the better ITTer because he was totally prepared. The amount of time he took on everyone during the first half of the TT proved he knew the course and equipment better than the others.

Yes, "prepared."

 

[The Clogger]

Loosely translated from a live interview with Vingegaard: "Watt wise the time trial was not my best performance of this tour or last year's."

Interesting, since it is primarily the time trial people are going ape *** over. But then again, it was probably mainly because Pogacar couldn't compete.

Otherwise, a very interesting interview with his former DS, Christian Andersen.