Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[FanBoi]

I think he will show the world who is the strongest...

 

[Valv.Piti]

Oh my god he can do regular endurance training 3 weeks before the Tour

Stop it, Vingegaard will line up late June in Italy and you know it

3 minutes down once we hitting the Pyrenees and magic will happen

 

[velaso montador]

Stop it, Vingegaard will line up late June in Italy and you know it

3 minutes down once we hitting the Pyrenees and magic will happen

He needs pogacar to have any form of accident then for that to happen like hes always have had to rely on. Which it can so better to go to the start.

I to think he will be on the start for in Italy hes had enough time of training it seems for that now which is good.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Yes, something needs to happen for Pog, but Im not really that scared of Remco and Roglic if you're Vingegaard even at 90% in a race such as this. Thats why you still line up and take the chance. There's still the Vuelta, and Vingegaard can cruise to that win regardless and there are no other races really you want to contest or have a chance to win in this part of the season.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Stage 4 could already be carnage, there's a bunch of teams with incentive to try and bury their rivals early before they can get a head of steam. Whoever is feeling good will think the others will have come in underdone or injured, not a chance they will want Vingegaard cooking in week 3 on those hard stages with only a small deficit.

 

[Poursuivant]

Van Baarle and Kruijswijk out of TDF

 

[Valv.Piti]

Stage 4 could already be carnage, there's a bunch of teams with incentive to try and bury their rivals early before they can get a head of steam. Whoever is feeling good will think the others will have come in underdone or injured, not a chance they will want Vingegaard cooking in week 3 on those hard stages with only a small deficit.

Hmm, I dont really know what to expect of this stage. At no point do you actually have the gradients, and the distance is also quite low, but there's indeed lots of climbing and a bit of altitude thrown in there as well. Exciting stage for sure, especially given the question marks we have so a team like UAE might still use this stage. No reason not to try at least. Early mountain stages like this thats not just a meh MTF is lovely as we saw last year in the Pyrenees.

 

[Netserk]

The last 8.5 km of Galibier is hard enough. 20 minutes of full gas, you need to be ready for that.

 

[AmRacer]

The last 8.5 km of Galibier is hard enough. 20 minutes of full gas, you need to be ready for that.

Or you will lose 27 minutes.

 

[Valv.Piti]

The last 8.5 km of Galibier is hard enough. 20 minutes of full gas, you need to be ready for that.

Is it really? If you drill it and go full gas, and the stage has been hard, it might be enough. Its very similar to the climb to Livigno this year, but this is not Dani Martinez and Geraint Thomas.

 

[rm2021]

Van Baarle and Kruijswijk out of TDF

Kelderman in.

 

[Tim Cahill]

If someone isn't properly acclimatised to the altitude then 2650m is very troublesome. I wasn't just thinking Pogacar attacking either, perhaps someone like Carapaz or Bernal might see it as an opportunity to try and test the injured 3, they aren't going to drop everyone of course but if you can properly dispatch 1 of them then that's a great result, and the rest would probably pile on. Ineos tho I suppose.

That descent finish looks very Carlos Rodriguez.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Is it really? If you drill it and go full gas, and the stage has been hard, it might be enough. Its very similar to the climb to Livigno this year, but this is not Dani Martinez and Geraint Thomas.

6.8% of average gradient should be enough: UAE dream team drilling like crazy coupled with Pogacar's attack can produce decent gaps, methinks, if Vingo is not fully ready.

 

[AmRacer]

If someone isn't properly acclimatised to the altitude then 2650m is very troublesome. I wasn't just thinking Pogacar attacking either, perhaps someone like Carapaz or Bernal might see it as an opportunity to try and test the injured 3, they aren't going to drop everyone of course but if you can properly dispatch 1 of them then that's a great result, and the rest would probably pile on. Ineos tho I suppose.

That descent finish looks very Carlos Rodriguez.

If those two attack, Pogacar will of course tag along and counter attack.

 

[Peyroteo94]

It seems strange he will stay at altitude for 5 weeks. Normally, gc riders stay 3 weeks training at altitude.

 

[Berniece]

If someone isn't properly acclimatised to the altitude then 2650m is very troublesome. I wasn't just thinking Pogacar attacking either, perhaps someone like Carapaz or Bernal might see it as an opportunity to try and test the injured 3, they aren't going to drop everyone of course but if you can properly dispatch 1 of them then that's a great result, and the rest would probably pile on. Ineos tho I suppose.

That descent finish looks very Carlos Rodriguez.

I think UAE will put a huge tempo which will drop Carapaz and Bernal. When Yates is the only one left to launch Pogacar, I don't think many will be able to follow.

 

[Nick2413]

It’s hard to imagine Vingegaard riding into form on week 3 if he doesn’t have the base. This is a different ballgame to a rider having normal prep and hitting peak late in the race. Only if he’s already really good will something like that be possible.

 

[rm2021]

It seems strange he will stay at altitude for 5 months. Normally, gc riders stay 3 weeks training at altitude.

Every rider responds differently to altitude. Some riders don't have benefits on being more than 2 weeks in altitude phisiologically, others don't respond well to altitude.

 

[Froome]

Stage 4 could already be carnage, there's a bunch of teams with incentive to try and bury their rivals early before they can get a head of steam. Whoever is feeling good will think the others will have come in underdone or injured, not a chance they will want Vingegaard cooking in week 3 on those hard stages with only a small deficit.

It will be hard for them to take time on Vingegaard in altitude, even if he starts a bit cooked.

 

[Froome]

Pretty sure he will be ready for the tour.
He had a training ride on 5h 30m this tuesday in Tignes.

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The bluff is so obvious. He will be there and in great shape.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

It will be hard for them to take time on Vingegaard in altitude, even if he starts a bit cooked.

The worse form he's in, the worse he will be at altitude.

 

[Rackham]

The bluff is so obvious. He will be there and in great shape.

Vingegaard's team is an issue.

Even with Vinge at 100%, he doesn't have the teammates to drill the hardest multi col mountain stages like in 2022 & 2023. The loss of Van Baarle is a serious blow in that regard, meanwhile others (like Laporte, Van Aert & Kuss) are nowhere near last year's levels for various reasons.

It means UAE will dictate the pace.

 

[Froome]

Vingegaard's team is an issue.

Even with Vinge at 100%, he doesn't have the teammates to drill the hardest multi col mountain stages like in 2022 & 2023. The loss of Van Baarle is a serious blow in that regard, meanwhile others (like Laporte, Van Aert & Kuss) are nowhere near last year's levels for various reasons.

It means UAE will dictate the pace.

I am a concerned with Kuss, i don't know if he crashed or not yesterday, nevertheless Jorgenson has been a good surprise.

Let's see in what kind of shape they will be in the Tour.

 

[noob]

What happened with the title?

 

[Rackham]

What happened with the title?

Vingegaard had a butterfly tattoo visible on his upper arm when he was training in Mallorca last month. Hence, 'butterfly effect'.

Rumor says it was a temporary tattoo though.