Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

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Medvind

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Smart riding. He knows that if he take pulls he might get attacked. I also think he hanged on for dear life sometimes and couldn't do much. Vinge's doms were great today, Jorgenson fantastic when he clawed back Pog.
 
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James M said:
I havent watched it myself and gotten it before today and liked Vingegaard and didnt get why social media called him a wheelsucker on stage 2?
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Come on man, you were saying the below after stage two, you're one of the more consistent posters here, I'll give you that, haha. This was much more Pogi's territory than that of Jonas, he was nearly in trouble there and saved by Jorgenson and Laporte. He was barely hanging on there at times, I know it would have been more exciting to see Visma help Pogi ride away but he would have dropped them later.

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vingegaard wheelsucking even now this guy is just next level
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Vingegaard really just isn't the rider you want to be or dream about being in your dreams. He's just.. kinda there somewhere, acting like the boring villain trying to take the victory of your favorite riders in the end.

BORING AND NEGATIVE. Meanwhile all Danes are up in arms about how great he is Visma is!
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In his terrain he is seldom boring. You seem to forget he just had 6 weeks of training before the tour, he was uncertain of his form, the stage is definately not Vinge's terrain, and he was not on his own bike. So for him it was easy, just try to follow and don't lose time. He knows he has to go on the attack eventually, but he is smart enough to know when to do it. And all riders are not like Pog and Remco on stages like this. Vinge did way better than Roglic on this stage, was positioned well all the time, and for a 58-59 kg rider on a stage like this, he rode exceptionally today.
 
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Medvind said:
In his terrain he is seldom boring.
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Hm, I would say (unless on those days where he saw he drops Pogacar - obviously he kept going), even there he is very Pogacar-focused. No matter what others do, he will respond to Pogacar only. And he will respond, not attack (with very few exceptions).

But he has a unique set of skills with his 3rd week super peaks. So its also rational to play his cards like this. Its a proven strategy of success for him.
 
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ppanther92 said:
Hm, I would say (unless on those days where he saw he drops Pogacar - obviously he kept going), even there he is very Pogacar-focused. No matter what others do, he will respond to Pogacar only. And he will respond, not attack (with very few exceptions).

But he has a unique set of skills with his 3rd week super peaks. So its also rational to play his cards like this. Its a proven strategy of success for him.
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On Marie-Blanque he attacked first and dropped Pog. But, I agree a bit, Pog however is a special opponent. Take away Pog and Vinge nearly almost attacks when the road goes up, look at his wins this year, superimpressive attacks.

Sure he is not attacking like Pog, but Pog is unique. I think he does what needs to be done to be able to beat Pog, and why should he do otherwise?
 
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On Marie-Blanque he attacked first and dropped Pog. But, I agree a bit, Pog however is a special opponent. Take away Pog and Vinge nearly almost attacks when the road goes up, look at his wins this year, superimpressive attacks.

Sure he is not attacking like Pog, but Pog is unique. I think he does what needs to be done to be able to beat Pog, and why should he do otherwise?
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I agree, he plays his card optimally. Pogacar maybe not (but in the end, Vingegaard is also just the stronger GT rider in my opinion). So I don't fully buy in the Pogacar energy wasting theory, although he has a tendency for that indeed. Vingegaard adapts to the style of Pogacar and is successful with it. Thats why I tend to see the chances on his side again.

But ofc, and as others said, shortened prep time might also be influencing his 3rd week recovery. Lets see.

From a general fan point of view, I can see though, why this is not to the liking of anyone.
 
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A guy riding defensively, on a bike that's not even his own, in terrain that doesn't suit him, against his biggest rival in the race, who's probably the best in the world in this terrain: BORING AND NEGATIVE!

He should of course care about entertainment instead of time loss, and just ride like a complete idiot [[content deleted]]
 
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