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Brullnux said:
I don't think being beaten on the climb means much today, riders took different pacing strategies. Almeida went considerably slower on the flat, despite normally being a very decent flat TTer. Same goes for Gregoire and Roglic, who both chose to dopretty severe negative splits. Vingegaard went really hard on the flat, paid for it a bit on the climb, but won by a good margin in the end which is what he cared about to begin with.
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So you’re saying he regards getting the lowest overall time and winning the race as more important than internet debates about who has the best form in February? :oops:
 
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Good catch, looks like Vingo's saddle has wings or some such on the back (is it more aero or maybe just more comfortable?), and he doesn't even ride for Red Bull.

Edit: I took the liberty to take a screenshot (which I hope will show up) from a different angle, fascinating indeed! Did anyone see the saddle once Vingo got off the bike? I wasn't able to catch the TT yesterday... maybe it's some kind of a triathlon saddle?

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1893806655957041450
View: https://x.com/opaisdociclismo/status/1893806655957041450
 
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Tricycle Rider said:
I don't understand the language, I take it the saddle is more aero?

Either way, thank you for the visuals! :)
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"this saddle was designed specifically to Visma and different riders have a different saddle. In Vingegaard's particular case, he is using a saddle that allows him to be more stable and fixed in his position on the bike..." " TT bikes have a 165 mm cranks meanwhile Vingegaard's TT bike only has 150 mm cranks" he said more things but not too important
 
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Peyroteo94 said:
"this saddle was designed specifically to Visma and different riders have a different saddle. In Vingegaard's particular case, he is using a saddle that allows him to be more stable and fixed in his position on the bike..." " TT bikes have a 165 mm cranks meanwhile Vingegaard's TT bike only has 150 mm cranks" he said more things but not too important
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Thank you for the translation, much appreciated! :)
 
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Peyroteo94 said:
"this saddle was designed specifically to Visma and different riders have a different saddle. In Vingegaard's particular case, he is using a saddle that allows him to be more stable and fixed in his position on the bike..." " TT bikes have a 165 mm cranks meanwhile Vingegaard's TT bike only has 150 mm cranks" he said more things but not too important
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His road bike was also with 150 mm cranks? What does the 172.5 mm refer to?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1893455587117035770
View: https://x.com/opaisdociclismo/status/1893455587117035770
 
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Because of an ischial-femoral impingement (from injury), I have often wondered if I could make my bike more comfortable with shorter cranks (as opposed to a really low saddle). I however don't have the pull that JV does with manufacturers so 170 (XTR) was the shortest that I could try. I'll be curious how this experiment goes for him.
 
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Peyroteo94 said:
"this saddle was designed specifically to Visma and different riders have a different saddle. In Vingegaard's particular case, he is using a saddle that allows him to be more stable and fixed in his position on the bike..." " TT bikes have a 165 mm cranks meanwhile Vingegaard's TT bike only has 150 mm cranks" he said more things but not too important
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I guess the 150mm cranks will only be for the tts because it allows a lower position while keeping the same hip angle. On steep climbs on the other hand he'd need an extra gear, because 10% shorter cranks means less leverage, making the gear that he's pushing feel like a heavier one (could explain the weird 1x set-up, also saves a few watts and some weight).
 
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Mayomaniac said:
I guess the 150mm cranks will only be for the tts because it allows a lower position while keeping the same hip angle. On steep climbs on the other hand he'd need an extra gear, because 10% shorter cranks means less leverage, making the gear that he's pushing feel like a heavier one (could explain the weird 1x set-up, also saves a few watts and some weight).
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His stage 4 road bike also had 150 mm cranks.
 
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Netserk said:
His stage 4 road bike also had 150 mm cranks.
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Ok, that stage wasn't that hard and having an extra day of getting used to shorter cranks is probably not a bad idea.
If he still has them on proper mountain stages it will surprise me. I mean, it makes sense for Pogacar, who was always mashing a big gear before last season, you get him on shorter cranks to up his natural cadence. But such short cranks for Vingegaard on all terrain, he isn't Consonni or Pozzovivo levels of short...
 
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Mayomaniac said:
Ok, that stage wasn't that hard and having an extra day of getting used to shorter cranks is probably not a bad idea.
If he still has them on proper mountain stages it will surprise me. I mean, it makes sense for Pogacar, who was always mashing a big gear before last season, you get him on shorter cranks to up his natural cadence. But such short cranks for Vingegaard on all terrain, he isn't Consonni or Pozzovivo levels of short...
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It sounds like a general change, by what O País Do Ciclismo says in the tweet a few posts above.
 
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I was stunned when I read Pogi was switching to 165mm cranks but those obviously worked for him. His higher cadence was also noticeable.

But now Jonas is upping the anti with 150mm? This is crazy but obviously it can work based upon Pogacar. Armstrong was the rider I recall who famously reversed the trend to crunch big gears climbing. But Armstrong used 175mm.

Now watch everyone rush to swap out their cranks for shorter versions. The bike industry is on another winner.
 
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