Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[Netserk]

Why would be talking about guns?

Pellizzari tried to shoot Vingegaard during the Vuelta.

 

[tobydawq]

Pellizzari tried to shoot Vingegaard during the Vuelta.

He did?

I guess all the Tiberi talk should also have been disallowed.

 

[Netserk]

He did?

I guess all the Tiberi talk should also have been disallowed.

Yes, while cooling down after a stage, he pointed his water gun in the direction of Vingegaard!

 

[Valv.Piti]

According to Vingo, he closed the gap to Pogacar, despite losing the Tour by 4.5 minutes:

"I’ve closed the gap to Tadej Pogacar" - Vuelta win renews Jonas Vingegaard's confidence ahead of upcoming European Championships

Jonas Vingegaard believes his victory at the 2025 Vuelta a Espana has brought him closer than ever to long-time rival Tadej Pogacar – and renewed his belief that he can take the fight to the Slovenian...

cyclinguptodate.com

It's way too optimistic but probably a proper way of thinking for a top sportsman. He lost a lot of time on his bad days but states that on his best days Pog couldn't drop him. He doesn't take into account that Pog likely also had some worse days (later in the race) plus Vingo in top form actually lost substantial time in relatively short Peyreguades TT.

Either Vingegaard is not very smart, which is possible, or he's straight up delusional. Also a rather weird timing after barely beating a mediocre Almeida.

 

[tobydawq]

Yes, while cooling down after a stage, he pointed his water gun in the direction of Vingegaard!

Ah, that's why the mods have been so busy with moderating discussion!

 

[AmRacer]

Yes, while cooling down after a stage, he pointed his water gun in the direction of Vingegaard!

"Water gun" 🤔

 

[Red Rick]

So Vingegaard has been confirmed for the EC road rage.

Should be interesting, the route suits him well, it's short enough to just lean into his fresh 5 minute power on the final climb, etc.

 

[RedheadDane]

So Vingegaard has been confirmed for the EC road rage.

I think he'll be quite calm doing it.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Good to hear that.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Jonas dodged a bullet.

 

[Red Rick]

Either Vingegaard is not very smart, which is possible, or he's straight up delusional. Also a rather weird timing after barely beating a mediocre Almeida.

Clearly he believes there will be 2 hilly TTs in the Tour next year

 

[Peter von]

Either Vingegaard is not very smart, which is possible, or he's straight up delusional. Also a rather weird timing after barely beating a mediocre Almeida.

“I think this Vuelta gives me hope and belief that I can challenge him even more next year,” Vingegaard said. “Even at the Tour de France, although it was a clear defeat, I still took confidence from it. I had some bad days in the Tour, which I still find difficult to explain. But when I was on my best days, he couldn’t ride away from me. That makes me feel like I’ve closed the gap compared to last year.”

This is just the sort of things any contender have to tell themselves; I can bounce back, I just had a bad day etc. it sounds like delusional excuses unless the athlete actually manages to come back and win.
If he was saying anything less than this he might as well sell his bike right now.

 

[Netserk]

Either Vingegaard is not very smart, which is possible, or he's straight up delusional. Also a rather weird timing after barely beating a mediocre Almeida.

Do you expect him to say no to a leading question?

Har den her Vuelta a Espana-sejr givet dig forhåbninger om og tro på, at du kan udfordre Tadej Pogacar endnu mere til næste år?

- Ja, det synes jeg. Men jeg synes også, at Tour de France gav mig noget tro og håb.

Why on Earth would any of the Danes here react to a fake quote from a slimy site rather than the actual exchange?

 

[Miss Violet Smith]

Hilarious !

https://twitter.com/x/status/1973128801107452277

View: https://x.com/laflammerouge16/status/1973128801107452277?t=_P-vRrwzbfTFJWWYh7H8QA&s=19

 

[RedheadDane]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1973128801107452277

View: https://x.com/laflammerouge16/status/1973128801107452277?t=_P-vRrwzbfTFJWWYh7H8QA&s=19

He should specialise in the Italian fall classics then!

04.10	Giro dell'Emilia	1.Pro	ME	startlist
05.10	Coppa Agostoni - Giro delle Brianze	1.1	ME	startlist
06.10	Coppa Bernocchi - GP Banco BPM	1.Pro	ME	startlist
07.10	Tre Valli Varesine	1.Pro	ME	startlist

Obviously, this year he can't... coz... he's gonna be a bit busy Sunday, but maybe next year.

 

[Lequack]

Jonas Vingegaard:"It’s not that I’m losing faith. It depends on how you prepare. I didn’t have the best preparation for this one. It was more to see how I would react and to represent Denmark. If I prepare properly, I can be up there in these races too."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1974870529199997087

View: https://x.com/vingeupdates/status/1974870529199997087

 

[CyclistAbi]

It's a positive that he represented his country but the performance was rather strange.

 

[Salvarani]

Sounds like he wasnt prepared physically and most definitely not mentally.

He really should have tried to be at Rwanda. He didnt have to be here. Or just done neither if he rather would have liked to end the season with the Vuelta.

 

[AmRacer]

He should specialise in the Italian fall classics then!

04.10	Giro dell'Emilia	1.Pro	ME	startlist
05.10	Coppa Agostoni - Giro delle Brianze	1.1	ME	startlist
06.10	Coppa Bernocchi - GP Banco BPM	1.Pro	ME	startlist
07.10	Tre Valli Varesine	1.Pro	ME	startlist

Obviously, this year he can't... coz... he's gonna be a bit busy Sunday, but maybe next year.

Maybe he should have done those races instead

 

[Oldman]

“I think this Vuelta gives me hope and belief that I can challenge him even more next year,” Vingegaard said. “Even at the Tour de France, although it was a clear defeat, I still took confidence from it. I had some bad days in the Tour, which I still find difficult to explain. But when I was on my best days, he couldn’t ride away from me. That makes me feel like I’ve closed the gap compared to last year.”

This is just the sort of things any contender have to tell themselves; I can bounce back, I just had a bad day etc. it sounds like delusional excuses unless the athlete actually manages to come back and win.
If he was saying anything less than this he might as well sell his bike right now.

Riders with the potential to get better also get real about revising the actual memories of a race.
But when I was on my best days, he couldn’t ride away from me.

Jonas knows absolutely no one that wins the Tour goes to their limit at every moment. He, like most other riders will come to the qualities they can improve to narrow the gap; not have difficulty explaining to themselves why they got dropped.
If the doesn't; not much will change.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

I just witnessed the meltdown.
Also here on the forum.

I'm amazed that a man can be at the top of the stars and just a few weeks didn't even figure out how to train for a new pitch.

I mean, it's not rocket science.
Although some people try to make it so.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

It's a positive that he represented his country but the performance was rather strange.

Not really strange. I actually expected his poor showing. He has zero form right now, 3 weeks after completing exhausting GT double. He said he was too tired to train and prepare properly for this one.

 

[Gobbo]

Not really strange. I actually expected his poor showing. He has zero form right now, 3 weeks after completing exhausting GT double. He said he was too tired to train and prepare properly for this one.

I understand. But still I was surprised to see how much his level has dropped in just three weeks.

I could have understood if he arrived at the 10th or 12th place. But it was shocking to see that he was dropped at a point where there were still at least 80 riders left in the peloton. Honestly I thought that even on his worst possible day, he would still have so much class that he would at least have finished the race in 10th or 12th position.

But I am not surprised by the fact that he could not compete for a medal. I just didn't expect such a poor performance by him. Not even on his worst day!

Surely he must now have learned the lesson: don't come unprepared for a big one day race! If you are not prepared adequately, it is better to stay home...

 

[Red Rick]

Not really strange. I actually expected his poor showing. He has zero form right now, 3 weeks after completing exhausting GT double. He said he was too tired to train and prepare properly for this one.

I think he knew far in advance it wouldn't be feasable to be good here so he opted out of Rwanda, said yes to the Euro's to appease the national coach and checked the "represent Denmark" off his list.

It's not like Almeida, who was his main rival in the Vuelta, set the world on fire at this Euro's.

 

[Peter von]

I understand. But still I was surprised to see how much his level has dropped in just three weeks.

I could have understood if he arrived at the 10th or 12th place. But it was shocking to see that he was dropped at a point where there were still at least 80 riders left in the peloton. Honestly I thought that even on his worst possible day, he would still have so much class that he would at least have finished the race in 10th or 12th position.

But I am not surprised by the fact that he could not compete for a medal. I just didn't expect such a poor performance by him. Not even on his worst day!

Surely he must now have learned the lesson: don't come unprepared for a big one day race! If you are not prepared adequately, it is better to stay home...

idk We have seen both Jonas and Pogi in the past be non-competitive in San Sebastian after a hard race in the Tour.

Sometimes, especially late in the season or shortly after GTs riders will just roll the form die and see what they get.

Vingegaard has also come under a lot of pressure to join the NT sometimes, so maybe he just did the bike version of washing someones favorite white sweater with the reds to get out of laundry duty at home . (just to be clear; i don't actually think he underperformed on purpose, but he might have taken a dice roll on his form here he otherwise normally wouldn't.