Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[RedheadDane]

While there are some fair explanations for Vingegaard's weak performance in France, he did do something quite inexcusable which was to put in an enduring ride the day before the RR. As he said before the race: "What I'm hearing is that many actually train quite hard the day before a one-day race. Now I've tried training a little harder than I have done other times, and we'll see if it works." He explained that Skjelmose - among others - advised him to do so.

Now, I wouldn't take advice from a guy like Skjelmose in general. But even so, why would you do something like that when you know that your body is tired and you're running on fumes? And why didn't the team manager stop this amateurish approach?

Maybe that was Skjelmose's plan:
"Jonas, just do this thing!"
"Oh... Jonas is out? What a shame... whelp... guess I'm the sole captain now..."

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Criticising Vingegaard after the EC is fair enough, but I'm not sure I would have done it if I were an ex-rider known for not being a great one-day racer or team player nor for being in good shape outside of my seasonal goals and have had a terrible relationship with the same national federation.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Criticising Vingegaard after the EC is fair enough, but I'm not sure I would have done it if I were an ex-rider known for not being a great one-day racer or team player nor for being in good shape outside of my seasonal goals and have had a terrible relationship with the same national federation.

Even though I dislike a few ex-riders on their personality or their words on fields not expert in, IMO that don't automatically disqualify some of their takes.
And here I must say I agree on every word from MR.
Besides, the story here about Skjelmose's advice to Jonas pre-race - is that for real?
I know the world of focussed training and substances have changed over time, but in amateur clubs as mine it has been school yard basics thst you don't push your limits the day before you enter the start line of a huge performance, and especially not if you've been away from your bike.
Speechless.

 

[KoopaCycling]

If this was the remco thread. People be flooding it with posts about excuses and a different tale before and after the race. How dare Jonas now say that him not spending time on the bike for 2 weeks after the vuelta may be a reason for his lesser performance. And how dare he assume he is capable of 1 day racing and possible winning when having only won 1 one day race. This needs dozens of posts on that sort of blasphemy. At least if this was the Remco thread...

 

[AmRacer]

If this was the remco thread. People be flooding it with posts about excuses and a different tale before and after the race. How dare Jonas now say that him not spending time on the bike for 2 weeks after the vuelta may be a reason for his lesser performance. And how dare he assume he is capable of 1 day racing and possible winning when having only won 1 one day race. This needs dozens of posts on that sort of blasphemy. At least if this was the Remco thread...

Remco fans post excuses/explanations, a lot.

 

[Netserk]

If this was the remco thread. People be flooding it with posts about excuses and a different tale before and after the race. How dare Jonas now say that him not spending time on the bike for 2 weeks after the vuelta may be a reason for his lesser performance. And how dare he assume he is capable of 1 day racing and possible winning when having only won 1 one day race. This needs dozens of posts on that sort of blasphemy. At least if this was the Remco thread...

Thank you for the valuable contribution to this thread.

 

[Salvarani]

Criticising Vingegaard after the EC is fair enough, but I'm not sure I would have done it if I were an ex-rider known for not being a great one-day racer or team player nor for being in good shape outside of my seasonal goals and have had a terrible relationship with the same national federation.

Sure, but that doesnt take away from what is being said could be accurate.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Even though I dislike a few ex-riders on their personality or their words on fields not expert in, IMO that don't automatically disqualify some of their takes.
And here I must say I agree on every word from MR.
Besides, the story here about Skjelmose's advice to Jonas pre-race - is that for real?
I know the world of focussed training and substances have changed over time, but in amateur clubs as mine it has been school yard basics thst you don't push your limits the day before you enter the start line of a huge performance, and especially not if you've been away from your bike.
Speechless.

It sounds like he's learned something from this experience, which could possibly help him in the future.
He wouldn't have gained that from staying at home. He could have decided to travel home before the start like Mads Pedersen did, but that probably wouldn't have earned him more praise.

The Danish team also managed to ride a decent race without him. They put riders in the breakaway, which Vingegaard obviously wouldn't have been allowed to join, but they ended up being brought back too early for them to be of much use thanks to the Belgians. Skjelmose still managed to finish a solid 7th. It could have been much worse, and Skjelmose had already delivered above expectations a week earlier in a race that mattered more to most people.

 

[Lurkerman]

Not sure if Vingegaard will ever retire, I can see him having a Froome-like career, forever chasing the next and final TDF. I am not at all convinced that he enjoys or wants to renovate kitchens, I think it's his wife or family who has a thing for TDF winners, sure, but also for handymen, especially if you could somehow combine them and so Vingegaard is afraid to let them down, just one more TDF and then he can finally switch his energies to this other, dangerous endeavor

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Not sure if Vingegaard will ever retire, I can see him having a Froome-like career, forever chasing the next and final TDF. I am not at all convinced that he enjoys or wants to renovate kitchens, I think it's his wife or family who has a thing for TDF winners, sure, but also for handymen, especially if you could somehow combine them and so Vingegaard is afraid to let them down, just one more TDF and then he can finally switch his energies to this other, dangerous endeavor

Trine will want Vingo to retire early to focus on family and OTOH Vingo may prefer a longer career to avoid house works. It really depends on who's in charge in this family (it doesn't seem it's Jonas!).