Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Mountain Sprinter

[AnotherArmChair]

What i heard Jonas say is that it was his best performance on a bike

I didnt hear him say anything about numbers

Performance could mean in relation to his crash and return

Also Pog did say he was on the limit at one stage until Vinge stood up and weakend then he attacked

 

[Oldermanish]

Of course not, that would be weird.
I definitely don't think he came to the Tour not hoping to win it. However, he can be hoping to win - and doing the best he can to actively reach that goal - while fully aware that it's entirely possible that he just won't.

Today both he and his DS came to the truth of being a solid 2nd place is Success. It's pretty amazing what he's accomplished with so little time to prepare. They should also be conscious that the last week could do some damage to the balance of the season if he's forced to go too deep. If I were their strategist I'd be sitting on Remco or 2nd tier challengers. Tadej and UAE may throw someone up the road but there isn't any reason to go nuclear to build the lead as the TT will provide a better signature win.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Can anybody tell me what Tratnik actually has done this race apart from handing a bike on stage 9? Even on flatter days, I see Keldermania and Jorgensen in the frontlines instead. Tratnik has been MIA the entire race despite having decent legs.

 

[AmRacer]

Can anybody tell me what Tratnik actually has done this race apart from handing a bike on stage 9? Even on flatter days, I see Keldermania and Jorgensen in the frontlines instead. Tratnik has been MIA the entire race despite having decent legs.

Fetching bottles?

 

[perico]

Are you telling me Pogacar just smokes peak Jonas for breakfast now?

He is a year or two younger. Most multiple winners since the dark ages seem to reach their absolute physical at 26-27. Contador 2009, Froome 2015. It’s possible Pogacar still had more room to improve. I’m not saying that’s the case, but it’s a possibility.

 

[Red Lobster]

Can anybody tell me what Tratnik actually has done this race apart from handing a bike on stage 9? Even on flatter days, I see Keldermania and Jorgensen in the frontlines instead. Tratnik has been MIA the entire race despite having decent legs.

True that. At least Kelderman and Jorgensen have been hella solid - doing the work.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Jonas: "I'm not disappointed and I'm not regretting anything. Tadej was just better."

Character in loss.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Lot of respect for Jonas in that interview. He's a champion.

 

[RJH]

After suffering from - amongst other injuries - pneumothorax in Pays Basque, it‘s almost a miracle that Vingegaard is so strong in the Tour; also today. I feared he perhaps would never come back extremely strong.

His Tour preparation clearly suffered. Otherwise, he would climb with Pogacar until the finish line.

He‘ll probably finish the Tour in 2nd spot, and will be really strong at the Vuelta.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Lot of respect for Jonas in that interview. He's a champion.

And definitely great ride today. No regrets, he did all he could. JV and Vingo executed their plan, the attack was devastating to everybody but one.

 

[Lequack]

And definitely great ride today. No regrets, he did all he could. JV and Vingo executed their plan, the attack was devastating to everybody but one.

For sure, if there was no Pog we'd be talking about how Vinge is dominating this Tour.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Naichaca/LR‘s graph only puts him up there with Riis Hautacam and Pantani Flumserberg. Weak stuff

 

[Red Rick]

Naichaca/LR‘s graph only puts him up there with Riis Hautacam and Pantani Flumserberg. Weak stuff

Both unipuerto meme stages. Also Flumserberg calculation gets higher every time they show it.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Naichaca/LR‘s graph only puts him up there with Riis Hautacam and Pantani Flumserberg. Weak stuff

And as we all know, he'd eat Riis for breakfast (but not Pogo Pops).

 

[Lorzenz08]

What i heard Jonas say is that it was his best performance on a bike

I didnt hear him say anything about numbers

Performance could mean in relation to his crash and return

Also Pog did say he was on the limit at one stage until Vinge stood up and weakend then he attacked

WRONG.

Tadej Pogačar and Jonas Vingegaard both did the best and second-best climbing performance of all time on the Plateau de Beille climb, making this the greatest climbing stage of all time.


" Pogačar did 6.98 ᵉW/Kg for 39:50 min, which is by far the greatest climbing performance ever, taking into account conditions and the stage difficulty. Sea normalised power for this historic effort is 7.27 ᵉW/Kg. Pogačar’s adjusted altitude score was 696, which means this performance was equivalent to pushing 6.96 ᵉW/Kg for 60 minutes at sea level. Jonas Vingegaard, despite losing 68 seconds did the second-greatest climbing performance of all time. The Dane did 6.85 ᵉW/Kg for 40:58 min. His altitude score was the second highest in history with 685. Until today, Marco Pantani’s Alpe d’Huez in 1997 was the best in history. "

Greatest Climbing Performances Of All-Time on Plateau de Beille | Tour de France 2024 Stage 15 - Lanterne Rouge

Tadej Pogačar and Jonas Vingegaard both did the best and second-best climbing performance of all time on the Plateau de Beille climb, making this the greatest climbing stage of all time.

lanternerouge.com

 

[AnotherArmChair]

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[Lorzenz08]

After suffering from - amongst other injuries - pneumothorax in Pays Basque, it‘s almost a miracle that Vingegaard is so strong in the Tour; also today. I feared he perhaps would never come back extremely strong.

His Tour preparation clearly suffered. Otherwise, he would climb with Pogacar until the finish line.

He‘ll probably finish the Tour in 2nd spot, and will be really strong at the Vuelta.

Tadej Pogačar and Jonas Vingegaard both did the best and second-best climbing performance of all time on the Plateau de Beille climb, making this the greatest climbing stage of all time.


Pogačar did 6.98 ᵉW/Kg for 39:50 min, which is by far the greatest climbing performance ever, taking into account conditions and the stage difficulty. Sea normalised power for this historic effort is 7.27 ᵉW/Kg. Pogačar’s adjusted altitude score was 696, which means this performance was equivalent to pushing 6.96 ᵉW/Kg for 60 minutes at sea level. Jonas Vingegaard, despite losing 68 seconds did the second-greatest climbing performance of all time.

 

[RedheadDane]

He‘ll probably finish the Tour in 2nd spot, and will be really strong at the Vuelta.

No he won't! Because he's not riding.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

No he won't! Because he's not riding.

There doesn't have to be any riding involved. Maybe he'll show up and put on a shot put show.

 

[RedheadDane]

There doesn't have to be any riding involved. Maybe he'll show up and put on a shot put show.

You do need to be quite strong to shot put...

 

[Valv.Piti]

I know Jonas is a family man and all, but I thought his job was to win bike races for Visma. If he doesn't do the Vuelta, then theres basically nothing else to do the rest of the season for him? Maybe Worlds and Lombardia, but c'mon, thats usually not really his cup of tea.

What would have happened if Trine was expecting during the Tour?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I know Jonas is a family man and all, but I thought his job was to win bike races for Visma. If he doesn't do the Vuelta, then theres basically nothing else to do the rest of the season for him? Maybe Worlds and Lombardia, but c'mon, thats usually not really his cup of tea.

What would have happened if Trine was expecting during the Tour?

I assume they've tried to schedule it to not interfere (too much) with the Tour.
It has sounded like he wants to ride Worlds, but I don't know if that's still a goal.

 

[jmdirt]

keep fighting JV!

 

[zlev11]

keep fighting JV!

do you think he reads this thread or something?

 

[Oldermanish]

And definitely great ride today. No regrets, he did all he could. JV and Vingo executed their plan, the attack was devastating to everybody but one.

And important to note: Jorgenson accelerated and only Pogacar was there. I've said this elsewhere but, after taking 3 minutes out of the break by himself on one climb to be able to launch like that is unreal. Given the chance to not be the tractor for this last week we could be talking about him in the same frame with Pogacar. Jonas should pay attention to that.