What on earth are you on about?EnacheV said:
Please show me one post here making ridiculous claims towards Breyne before his suicide attempt.EnacheV said:
In contrast Passaportador got nailed for 50 picograms. Anybody cares to put the zeros in and compare directly.peloton said:What on earth are you on about?
Look at the amount he tested + for....
It seems that the 99% number is very inflated.Netserk said:Please show me one post here making ridiculous claims towards Breyne before his suicide attempt.
- China's Fuyu Li: 50-100 picograms on March 23Dazed and Confused said:I am trying to find the figure for Ovtcharov, but no luck so far. Just for ref.
So Breyne's concentration level is on a completely different scale.peloton said:- China's Fuyu Li: 50-100 picograms on March 23
- Italy's Alessandro Colò: 200 picograms on April 25
- Spain's Alberto Contador: 50 picograms on July 21
- Germany's Dimitrij Ovtcharov: 75 picograms on September 22
Don't know the amount the acquitted Danish rider Nielsen tested + for
So you admit that this:EnacheV said:It seems that the 99% number is very inflated.
Ill try to speak more slowly.
Probably he is referring to other forums than CN because here nobody cared to much about it, Rogers as being ex-Sky took the full flak barrage.
However this forum has few other favorites, for example JTL, who got a very though treatment here, with exhaustive and final personal opinions presented as facts (want to digg them?).
Bottom point is that the level of "discussion" here is enough to drive some weaker mind cyclists to suicide. If that didn't happened yet is because favorite targets of CN clinic are not that weak mental (or sensible) as this guy.
But there is always time...
is complete BS.
Half life is 36-48 hoursNetserk said:So if he was tested 10 days later, he'd have the same concentration as AC?
Thanks.Catwhoorg said:Half life is 36-48 hours
Using 48 hours
2 days 2500 pg/ml
4 days 1250 pg/ml
6 days 625 pg/ml
8 days 312 pg/ml
10 days 156 pg/ml
12 days 78 pg/ml
14 days 39 pg/ml
For 36 hours, the list would be 1.5, 3, 4.5, 6, 7.5, 9, 10.5 days
So yes, 10-14 days for the clen to be down to AC's reported level
Iirc Contador's level didn't have any direct effect performance wise (disregarding the wider picture), but what about this level?Merckx index said:Based on a urine concentration of 5 ng/ml, Breyne probaby ingested at least 50 ug, which, yes, should result in symptoms. Not necessarily feeling sick, but aware that something was going on. That's assuming he was tested within a day or two after ingestion; the estimated amount ingested would be higher if the elapsed time were longer.
Meat this heavily contaminated (ca. 150-250 ug/kg) is quite rare, at least in Mexico, where some studies have been done. I have a lot of trouble believing that meat like this would end up being served in a major hotel. However, one of the Mexican soccer players tested at 4.2 ng/ml, and got off on the contamination excuse.
His level four days later, when I understand he raced, would be roughly 5-6 times lower, or 1 ng/ml or less. The minimum sensitivity required of testing labs I believe is 2 ng/ml, so it's possible he was tested then and nothing was detected.