Juan Ayuso discussion thread

[SHAD0W93]

Almeida wasn't exactly known as a great teammate ahead of the 2024 Tour de France either!

Almeida rode in support for Pogacar in multiple races before the Tour, helped Majka last year, and has helped out other teammates in different races. His only big complaint was dropping back to help Evenepoel at the Giro that cost him a lot of time and potential podium, then the issue with Ayuso at the Vuelta last year though without Almeida getting sick they finish very close to the same time and Ayuso wasn’t close to getting third at all. Now should he have worked for Ayuso, most likely, but I can understand why he didn’t concerning the circumstances. Pogacar is the undisputed leader and prior above Ayuso, there shouldn’t have been problems.

 

[Rob5091]

According to https://as.com/juegos_olimpicos/ayuso-tres-semanas-sin-bici-por-el-covid-y-piensa-en-la-vuelta-n/
and
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...pite-remaining-out-of-uae-team-emirates-plans

As mentioned, part of the reason for Ayuso's recent struggles has been Covid and the subsequent struggles to return to a top level. "It has been three difficult weeks. Today I thought I would not even finish," the 21-year-old continues his reflection. "Then, at times I saw myself dreaming of the medal. I have suffered as much as I could and that makes me feel proud. I thought that in three or four days I would be fine, like other times I had COVID, but this time, for reasons unknown to me, I have been three weeks without getting on the bike."

3 weeks without getting on the bike does not sound well for the chance of doing the Vuelta.

 

[Salvarani]

According to https://as.com/juegos_olimpicos/ayuso-tres-semanas-sin-bici-por-el-covid-y-piensa-en-la-vuelta-n/
and
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...pite-remaining-out-of-uae-team-emirates-plans

3 weeks without getting on the bike does not sound well for the chance of doing the Vuelta.

So the team is just being smart, if he isnt selected.

Ayuso doesnt know what is good for him. He is not prepared to start the Vuelta or will be able to a good result atm. The team knows that.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Ayuso will participate at Vuelta and won't work neither for Yates or Almeida. The rest, what UAE is saying, is BS. They know that if they don't keep him happy, then Ayuso will switch teams. It's as simple as that. And UAE for sure doesn't want for that to happen, so they know what they must do next.

 

[Valv.Piti]

UAE has Ayuso under contract for infinite years. They are in control and can make him ride whatever races they desire based on the riders available. Thats on Ayuso, and whats also on Ayuso is the way he behaved recently.

 

[CyclistAbi]

UAE has Ayuso under contract for infinite years. They are in control and can make him ride whatever races they desire based on the riders available. Thats on Ayuso, and whats also on Ayuso is the way he behaved recently.

As said, read such UAE talks as BS. It's UAE who needs to make a step back now, or the relationship will become tainted and more importantly, history.

 

[Valv.Piti]

UAE can do whatever they want, they have him locked up. It would take a large sum of money to buy him free. Ayuso has signed a contract, u know.

 

[Netserk]

UAE can do whatever they want, they have him locked up. It would take a large sum of money to buy him free. Ayuso has signed a contract, u know.

If you raise that point in the Uijtdebroeks thread, you will be called out for endorsing slavery!

 

[CyclistAbi]

UAE can do whatever they want, they have him locked up. It would take a large sum of money to buy him free. Ayuso has signed a contract, u know.

Sure. Like Patrick already hinting that he might be OK with Remco leaving for a sandwich and a juice. That is couple mills. For sure Gianetti talking about 100 millions has much to do with reality. And for sure such publick shaming and mobbing will last for long.

If this ends up ugly then UAE will get peanuts. So it's time to step back and to start rewarding Ayuso, well, for being Ayuso. Otherwise what the *** are you doing anyway. Trying to mould Ayuso into something he isn't?

Why? Historically speaking, that never ever worked, such marriage. And didn't you used to like Ayuso, as rider? If i remember correctly you predicted, each time, he will beat Rogla. Obviously he didn't, but still.

So Ayuso is doing Vuelta and UAE will take a step back, or else, on top of that he will be co-leader. That is my prediction. On what ends up happening we'll find out soonish.

 

[Peter von]

UAE can do whatever they want, they have him locked up. It would take a large sum of money to buy him free. Ayuso has signed a contract, u know.

Sure; to the extent they still honor their obligations in the deal.

But it’s not really in UAEs best interest to do anything else than to treat him as the future GT winner they are currently overpaying him to be.

Ayuso is too ambitious to settle in for a Richie Porte role; that sucks on one hand, but it can also help him win big bike races.

 

[CyclistAbi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1821890459116970471

View: https://x.com/cirogazzetta/status/1821890459116970471


The games continue.

 

[Lequack]

Why wouldn't they let him ride, I hope the teams doesn't let some pettiness come in between. He's probably still their best chance of winning the Vuelta, Yates and Almeida are good but have a Tour in their legs, and McNulty can be inconsistent as well.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Why wouldn't they let him ride, I hope the teams doesn't let some pettiness come in between. He's probably still their best chance of winning the Vuelta, Yates and Almeida are good but have a Tour in their legs, and McNulty can be inconsistent as well.

No, he is not. He is not a world class climber and he was the man who created all this scenario. He is arrogant and doesn't deserve to be part of the team. He really shoot himself in the head on Galibier and he probably ruined his career. Now, he will probably end in Movistar and they are not a great team anymore.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Why wouldn't they let him ride, I hope the teams doesn't let some pettiness come in between.

It's indeed strange. What else is then Ayuso going to do in this team. Feels like the management is butthurt and can't get over it, over something.

 

[pastronef]

Ayuso is Matxin's protected rider. he's been following him since years. they'll have to find a way for him to stay at UAE. he'd be wasted at Movistar more than at UAE with a strict calendar and we all know it

 

[CyclistAbi]

If they have to punish Ayuso, over something, then making him ride Vuelta while being trained by Iñigo San Millán. That should do it?

Anyway. In my opinion Ayuso will do Vuelta 2024 and if he doesn't then it's time to start looking for another team, as what else are you then going to do at UAE, beyond wasting some time.

 

[Barnacle Bill]

Damn, I'll be disappointed if he doesn't ride the Vuelta. Miss the days of the Movistar trident and was really looking forward to a UAE hydra

 

[Netserk]

I can't wait to watch him on bottle duty for Pogi in Canada.

 

[hayneplane]

Sad to see how a really promising rider is hurting his career so much by letting the ego and impatience overtake him.

 

[ice&fire]

If Hirschi is out of the team next season Juan is the perfect man to keep collecting all those .Pro and .1 race wins.

 

[Valv.Piti]

I can't wait to watch him on bottle duty for Pogi in Canada.

Thats how it goes when you're too oblivious to the fact that you're riding with an all time rider at the peak of his powers and still attempt to hide whenever you can for selfish reasons. Very much deserved if he doesn't make the team IMO

 

[staubsauger]

If Ayuso hasn't trained properly for 3 weeks he simply isn't in good enough shape for team leadership at the 2024 Vuelta a Espana!

Otherwise he would be in Spain and lead the squad. He has beaten Almeida twice at the Vuelta a Espana!

 

[YavorD]

As said, read such UAE talks as BS. It's UAE who needs to make a step back now, or the relationship will become tainted and more importantly, history.

Why are you so keen about sending Ayuso to the Vuelta?
Yates and Almeida did a great job for Pog in July, they deserve GT leadership too (even a shared one). Bringing Ayuso in will unbalance the team and would be bad towards Almeida and Yates imo.

 

[velaso montador]

So basically social media should again decide the outcome of Vuelta? And Almeida and Yates should participate, due to being good boys. Ayuso not, due to being a bad boy?

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Whats the problem? Ayuso is employed if he defy the orders of the employer you dont expect it to be consequences?

Besides when was Aysuo bound to go to the Vuelta from UAE stand of point? are they not allowed to chose better fit captains for the Vuelta if they want? Yates and Almeida proven to be better shape than him so they choose them, make sense? What your typing make zero sense.

Dont worrie though Roglic isnt beating any of em he will crash out like he always does so dont worrie about it.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Whats the problem? Ayuso is employed if he defy the orders of the employer you dont expect it to be consequences?

Ayuso is a kid and has the right to defend himself.

Besides when was Aysuo bound to go to the Vuelta from UAE stand of point? are they not allowed to chose better fit captains for the Vuelta if they want? Yates and Almeida proven to be better shape than him so they choose them, make sense? What your typing make zero sense.

You said Ayuso is being punished. So the rest of the argument is BS.

Dont worrie though Roglic isnt beating any of em he will crash out like he always does so dont worrie about it.

Exactly, that is on why i want for Ayuso to go.