Juan Ayuso discussion thread

[Valv.Piti]

Lol

 

[Cycling111]

I’m so glad I didn’t start that Pablo Torres thread. Won’t make it off page 1 of the thread at this point

I think Pablo Torres is going to be a worse cyclist than Ayuso.

Although Ayuso doesn't seem likely to win a GT, or at most a Vuelta like Valverde, he's a rider who has won one-week races without the big favorites.

He's a Valverde type, but worse than him. He's good in some one-day and week-long races without the best, but he struggles in GTs and in a races with the big six level.

It will be interesting to see how far cyclists like Seixas progress, having been on professional teams like Decathlon from a very young age.
Perhaps they reach their peak level so young that they will not evolve as much as is believed.
When Pogacar won his first races with Lubjiana, they didn't even have time trial bikes...

 

[fenns]

did he even finish the stage today?

 

[SHAD0W93]

did he even finish the stage today?

He finished like 3 mins ago on Peacock around 11:30 down from the stage winner I think.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Today's performance has probably made Trek even more convinced they need to sign him.

 

[Cycling111]

did he even finish the stage today?

He can win stages, but Ayuso's aspirations aren't to be Jay Vine and win a stage in a consented breakaway. They're to be Pogacar, as he himself said this year.

 

[ice&fire]

Ayuso has said he and the team knew he wasn't fit to contest GC when he was asked to do the Vuelta.
I have read some rumours/conspiracy theories about Unipublic designing a silly easy route to attract Pogacar, and then when UAE confirmed Pogacar's not racing, Unipublic asked them to bring Ayuso.

 

[YavorD]

Ayuso has said he and the team knew he wasn't fit to contest GC when he was asked to do the Vuelta.
I have read some rumours/conspiracy theories about Unipublic designing a silly easy route to attract Pogacar, and then when UAE confirmed Pogacar's not racing, Unipublic asked them to bring Ayuso.

To be honest that sounds somehow plausible.
With Carlos Rodriguez out, Mas...they probably knew he isn't likely to start and Landa questionable, I wouldn't be surprised if that's true.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Ayuso has said he and the team knew he wasn't fit to contest GC when he was asked to do the Vuelta.
I have read some rumours/conspiracy theories about Unipublic designing a silly easy route to attract Pogacar, and then when UAE confirmed Pogacar's not racing, Unipublic asked them to bring Ayuso.

This is not a silly, easy route. Its not a great route, but its not really an easy one either.

Ayuso got the call up more or less 4 weeks before the start right after the Tour. Considering that he should be in a decent shape in late July going into the second part of the season anyways, regardless of Vuelta or no Vuelta, this is just some *** and crybaby stuff from Juan. Guy literally begged to be on the team, Pog went on to not doing the race, he gets the call and now he blames the team again. What a clown! You know this always would be an opportunity that you get selected due to injuries and Pog changing his mind, so what he's saying is he spent more time in the media complaining and crying than acting like a professional and preparing for the second part of the season. If he actually had the cojones, he'd blame Pogacar because thats literally the reason his participation was up in the air, but thats not gonna happen and that would make no sense anyways - the only one to blame is himself for not preparting sufficiently and then throwing a fit.

I really hope this guy finds another team. I was a fan in 2022, but man he's insufferable and ecocentric. Can't wait to read what mou says on X!

 

[staubsauger]

Ayuso has said he and the team knew he wasn't fit to contest GC when he was asked to do the Vuelta.
I have read some rumours/conspiracy theories about Unipublic designing a silly easy route to attract Pogacar, and then when UAE confirmed Pogacar's not racing, Unipublic asked them to bring Ayuso.

Sure

Ayuso at this point is the new Evgeni Berzin!
Only that he didn't even win the 2023 Tour de Suisse as the new super talent due to his inconsistency contrary to Berzin's win at the 1994 Giro d'Italia!

 

[Red Rick]

Ayuso has said he and the team knew he wasn't fit to contest GC when he was asked to do the Vuelta.
I have read some rumours/conspiracy theories about Unipublic designing a silly easy route to attract Pogacar, and then when UAE confirmed Pogacar's not racing, Unipublic asked them to bring Ayuso.

Pogacar sabotaging teammates from his couch yet Ayuso is the terrible teammate

 

[Valv.Piti]

Pogacar sabotaging teammates from his couch yet Ayuso is the terrible teammate

If Ayuso was actually serious here, he'd have prepared in July as if he was riding the Vuelta because he'd know that a decision would be taken right after the Tour worst case. In reality that's what happened, but with the twist that Pog even one week before Paris strongly hinted that he wouldn't participate.

And what then if Ayuso didn't get the call up? Well, then you go to Poland, Worlds, EC and Italy.

Unserious from Ayuso - ESPECIALLY with his latest antics in mind begging to ride. Insufferable character laying the blame on the team after another collapse.

Now watch Ayuso chase breaks and not give a single *** about Almeida

 

[Red Rick]

If Ayuso was actually serious here, he'd have prepared in July as if he was riding the Vuelta because he'd know that a decision would be taken right after the Tour worst case. In reality that's what happened, but with the twist that Pog even one week before Paris strongly hinted that he wouldn't participate.

And what then if Ayuso didn't get the call up? Well, then you go to Poland, Worlds, EC and Italy.

Unserious from Ayuso - ESPECIALLY with his latest antics in mind begging to ride. Insufferable character laying the blame on the team after another collapse.

Now watch Ayuso chase breaks and not give a single *** about Almeida

UAE were pretty strong in their communication he wouldn't race the Vuelta. If Poland was important it would have been on the schedule with or without the Vuelta.

 

[Netserk]

Regardless of the particular circumstances that had him perform so poorly today, his climbing and in particular his floor have always been suspect. Imploded in Catalunya on an easy route where the queen stage was cancelled.

 

[Valv.Piti]

So what has Ayuso done in July to be so out of shape that you wouldn't be able to do a proper Vuelta knowing a month in advance that you'd do the Vuelta? I presume thats Pogacar's fault as well?

 

[Red Rick]

I just think he's a February/March peaker. His 2 Vuelta top 4s were when he had super light schedules going into the Vuelta.

 

[staubsauger]

So what has Ayuso done in July to be so out of shape that you wouldn't be able to do a proper Vuelta knowing a month in advance that you'd do the Vuelta? I presume thats Pogacar's fault as well?

 

[Netserk]

I just think he's a February/March peaker. His 2 Vuelta top 4s were when he had super light schedules going into the Vuelta.

And both were with some rather weak performances. Lost 1'23" to Landa on Angliru.

 

[Cycling111]

She...? Is this supposed to be a sexist joke of some kind or an actual error?

Error

 

[Cycling111]

To be honest that sounds somehow plausible.
With Carlos Rodriguez out, Mas...they probably knew he isn't likely to start and Landa questionable, I wouldn't be surprised if that's true.

But Ayuso had been pressuring the media for weeks, saying he wanted to go to the Vuelta.
The same thing happened last year. He asked to go to the Vuelta for weeks. In the end, they didn't take him.

If he's so insistent, he must be in decent shape as the first reserve.

In any case, he would have competed in Poland, which was a race before the Vuelta.

 

[fenns]

I guess he'll now be all-in as a dom for Almeida

 

[Vinther1991]

Another disappointment for this guy. He is clearly capable of reaching a high level, but when it really counts he doesn't achieve.

 

[Peyroteo94]

So what has Ayuso done in July to be so out of shape that you wouldn't be able to do a proper Vuelta knowing a month in advance that you'd do the Vuelta? I presume thats Pogacar's fault as well?

Are you taking him seriously im that post? He likes to say wild things.

 

[ppanther92]

Ayuso was given *** 2 GCs as a leader in a team with a handful more loyal and more decorated riders. He is just an spoiled brat or whatever the cycling equivalent is, leaving the team down when its his turn to work and showing attitudes over and over again. Fortunately, he will not be given such opportunities anymore or if, then in a lesser team.

 

[ppanther92]

Well, yes, thats probably also a good description