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And what did he found out? That he can finally leave a manipulative team and start focusing on his own career again. More like *** around and win in life.
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Ayuso burnt every bridge at UAE, nobody in the team likes him. He is a selfish guy that leaves the race instead of helping out his teammate. Being Matxin's golden child he has been given opportunities ahead of others and he flopped and left the race instead of helping his teammate that was in pink and now this Vuelta. Even if he stayed he would be in last position of the GC pecking order over at UAE behind Pogacar, Toro and Almeida. He can go sh*t up someone elses team, he would be a good domestique for Lipowitz together with Remco
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Nothing in this Giro particularly stood out unless we're supposed to believe Ayuso dropped on purpose while still riding for his own GC.
It's really only this gigantic thing because he failed to pull for Pogacar once in the Tour de France, and Almeida made a huge deal about it. Ironically enough, Almeida failed to pull for Pogacar in that exact same way several times throughout the Tour.
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Did your forget Yates's post stage interview? Or it is convenient to your narrative, the problem was only Almeida?
Did he drop on purpose or not in this Vuelta (I think stage 9)? He was dropped before the climb. Or this doesn't fit your narrative too?
Why was he hampering Del Toro's Giro, if he was injured and knew he would not be relevant for the GC? Specially after seeing Del Toro respecting Ayuso's leadership (the stage Ayuso won).
Ayuso is the only one to blame. But I would love to see him in Bora. This agenda would end in a second.
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I don't remember a Yates post interview, but he was very useful in that Giro.
I really don't know how he hampered Del Toro in that Giro apart from the UAE team making the call to wait for Ayuso like once after Ayuso got dropped.
Considering he is 22 and based on his results so far i feel that yes, he will get leadership in his new team rather easily. As for leadership in terms of Vuelta 2025, it was explained that it was known upfront Ayuso didn't came to Vuelta 2025 to contest the GC. He and the team knew it upfront and nobody denied that. So he is here for contesting stages and for supporting Almeida. His presence, from the team perspective, was especially seen in an ITT, on where the team secured Almeida a hefty bonus over Jonas. He won a stage and i assume that he is now planned on a stage or two to pull for Almeida. So as a dom he is now mostly resting and waiting for that, to do his job.
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1987 Giro Roche and Eddy Schepers vs Visentini and the rest of the team (Carrera). Roche said "I did not attack Visentini, I followed the breaks". At the start of Stage 15, Visentini led Roche by 2 mins 42 secs. Roche put nearly 7 minutes into Visentini in the stage by following the breaks. Roche won the giro and Visentini ended up abandoning. It's known as the great betrayal and was the most dramatic inter-team rivalry.
Hey man, one request: I like to roll my eyes whenever remco fans talk about remco derangement syndrom, I would like to keep doing that, could you by any chance please not prove them right?
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Did Pogi demanded for Remco to leave SOQ?
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We'll see, obviously Ayuso and UAE weren't the best fit, lets see on what happens in his new team. Another thing to consider is Pogi could IMHO just as easily find himself in such position at the start of his career. I doubt he would settle for what some of you argue Ayuso should have settle for in this team. In the end he gave the middle finger to UAE and i guess one has to respect that. Now it's up to him to show it was justified.
We'll see, obviously Ayuso and UAE weren't the best fit, lets see on what happens in his new team. Another thing to consider is Pogi could IMHO just as easily find himself in such position at the start of his career. I doubt he would settle for what some of you argue Ayuso should have settle for in this team. In the end he gave the middle finger to UAE and i guess one has to respect that. Now it's up to him to show it was justified.
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Started what? Maybe you don't need to be so insecure and feel the need to immediately defend Pogacar by attacking riders that have nothing to do with the discussion, which you purely do to offend the users trying to have an active discussion about Pogacar's role in Ayuso's leaving.
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It could easily go either way. Anyway, true or not, Ayuso doesn't want to ride for the chosen one, fine, most of the peloton doesn't either. They will hence go on separate ways. It's life.
It could easily go either way. Anyway, true or not, Ayuso doesn't want to ride for the chosen one, fine, most of the peloton doesn't either. They will hence go on separate ways. It's life.
Still if we take this at face value we see it constantly, on why Ayuso was under so much scrutiny, that is not normal.
P.S. On an unrelated note Giorgio Armani died. RIP.
The mistreatment of Ayuso continues to be strange. He has left the team, but Jay Vine worked for him the other day, and Soler works for him today.
There´ll still be people who say that he is mistreated.
There´ll still be people who say that he is mistreated.
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There are also people that say his teammates don’t like him, clearly they do
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Another huge win for Ayuso. Him and Vine saving the Vuelta for UAE given the lack of sting in their GC challenger
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Good win, but he should not go an be finessing too much or do a lot of hand gestures telling someone to take pulls now. With his current reputation he would be smart to avoid making more enemies.
Some of the takes on this thread, honestly.
I'm sure Pogacar has a significant say in his own schedule, and probably gets a say in who rides with him at particular races too. That seems fairly normal for the top rider on a team, and I'd imagine that's probably similar for riders like Vingegaard and MdvP. But you seem to think Pogacar is deciding exactly who rides which race, which is such a wild take I can't even cope. Do you really think he cares who rides the Circuito Getxo? He also doesn't have complete control over his own schedule, as shown by the fact that he was at the UAE Tour this year, and can't get out of the Tour, when it seems he wouldn't mind a year off.
As for your ideas about the Giro...you seem to have decided this based on one congratulatory Instagram post Pogacar made about del Toro. I may be misremembering, but my recollection is that UAE were committed to Ayuso past the point at which many spectators thought they ought to be riding for del Toro. On stage 15, they even chased down an attack containing del Toro to support Ayuso, no? It's a wild take to suggest that Pogacar somehow ruined Ayuso's chances in the Giro by making a nice Instagram post about del Toro.
I genuinely understand that some posters don't like certain riders for various reasons, but some of the stuff I see on here is just made up nonsense.... "I don't like this rider therefore I have decided he must be responsible for all these things". For what it's worth, I do think Pogacar is part of the reason Ayuso has ended up leaving UAE, but not because there is particular animosity between them. It's simply that when you're on the same team as someone like Pogacar, you will never have your first pick of opportunities. Ayuso obviously came to find that restrictive, which is fair enough, and hopefully he'll find his new team to be a good fit.
How can you complain about congratulations when the one who looks bad is Ayuso? Ayuso is the one who looks bad. Pogacar congratulated him after a stage, months after Ayuso failed to congratulate him for a World Championship, and even failed to do so for the 2024 Tour, which he briefly participated in. Ayuso couldn't even rejoice at a teammate's victory in a Tour he was in.
But Pogacar is a bad teammate because he congratulated him, but he doesn't do it the way you want? LOL It's incredible.
By the way, you're forgetting that when Ayuso was being heavily questioned about the Tour, Urska and Pogacar uploaded a photo to Instagram training with Ayuso and one of Urska's teammates, who was with Jayco at the time. Pogacar did him a favor to calm the criticism to Ayuso.
Despite all that, he hasn't congratulated him on the 2025 Tour either. But are you complaining about congratulations???
Getting along with some people is a fact of life. Remco gets along better with some people, yes, that's why he takes a teammate to Bora. How bad person and teammate is Remco that he doesn't take everyone to Bora and prefers one 🤣. In more than one interview, Remco has said he has friends in Soudal, and no one says he mistreats those he doesn't name as friends, doesn't congratulate them, or doesn't take them to Bora with him.
This discussion about congratulations is ridiculous and childish. But what's more, because Ayuso is the one didn't congratulate.
It's incredible how you twist everything around to criticize Pogacar for something he didn't do wrong, and you justify everything to Ayuso by criticizing Pogacar even for races he's not in.
But Pogacar is a bad teammate because he congratulated him, but he doesn't do it the way you want? LOL It's incredible.
By the way, you're forgetting that when Ayuso was being heavily questioned about the Tour, Urska and Pogacar uploaded a photo to Instagram training with Ayuso and one of Urska's teammates, who was with Jayco at the time. Pogacar did him a favor to calm the criticism to Ayuso.
Despite all that, he hasn't congratulated him on the 2025 Tour either. But are you complaining about congratulations???
Getting along with some people is a fact of life. Remco gets along better with some people, yes, that's why he takes a teammate to Bora. How bad person and teammate is Remco that he doesn't take everyone to Bora and prefers one 🤣. In more than one interview, Remco has said he has friends in Soudal, and no one says he mistreats those he doesn't name as friends, doesn't congratulate them, or doesn't take them to Bora with him.
This discussion about congratulations is ridiculous and childish. But what's more, because Ayuso is the one didn't congratulate.
It's incredible how you twist everything around to criticize Pogacar for something he didn't do wrong, and you justify everything to Ayuso by criticizing Pogacar even for races he's not in.
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Solid performance, everything under control despite not being that dominant on the last climb. Or maybe Romo is just a lot stornger than I expected. Plenty of opportunities for a 3rd win, but GC group will win on Angliru and I think Vine grabs Somiedo. My guess would be Ayuso winning either stage 16 or 17
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That can be your take. I’ve followed cycling long enough and went through the Armstrong era to understand what this is.
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