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lol no time gaps are hilarius.contador performances would still be great today.why do you think every pro team does watts,not time gaps.this aint 63 anymore.you can easy see overall level went up directlly from watts.
We dont actually see the watts though. We know the time, route and condition and estimate watts based on that. And since climbing speed vary so much based on conditions, comparing to competition is clearly necessary to get a real gauge of the level.
 
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Hindley is a good benchmark for Ayuso's performance in TA compared to last year.
They finished together on Monte Petrano in 2024.
At the same time Pidcock finished closer or pretty much the same time to Ayuso now compared to last year on Monte Petrano.

If I remember correctly... Ayuso also dropped or was further down for some time on that stage last year, but then came back. If I am not mistaken.
 
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lol no time gaps are hilarius.contador performances would still be great today.why do you think every pro team does watts,not time gaps.this aint 63 anymore.you can easy see overall level went up directlly from watts.
W/kg are ridiculous as becuase you're comparing things that should not at all be compared this way.

Roglic did higher W/kg than Pogacar in 2023, should I claim he was the better climber that year?

Watts are used by teams because they are the input variable. Those are what you work at. You can't control if other riders get better or not.
 
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Hindley is a good benchmark for Ayuso's performance in TA compared to last year.
They finished together on Monte Petrano in 2024.
Hindley was better in Valenciana and in the ITT last year.

Pidcock is probably better now than last year, but he did quite well on Petrano too.
 
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Let's not forget that Ayuso would have won Tirreno last year if Vingegaard was not in the race.
In 8 days starts Catalunya - a proper race with some really hard stages, not like this soft Tirreno.
More importantly Roglic and Jonas will be there. Let's see if Juan can perform against the big guns.
 
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Let's not forget that Ayuso would have won Tirreno last year if Vingegaard was not in the race.
In 8 days starts Catalunya - a proper race with some really hard stages, not like this soft Tirreno.
More importantly Roglic and Jonas will be there. Let's see if Juan can perform against the big guns.
Well, Tirreno is primarilly just about getting the racing in, in light of la Classicissima, for which the race routes don't have to be excessively difficult. However, especially in its modern history, Tirreno is raced really hard, with the Italian event between the two seas offering some demanding terrain. In a tougher route like Catalunya, I don't think things change much for Ayusso, who should be up there battling Vingegaard and Roglic; but they would change significantly for a much heavier rider like Ganna, who would not be. In other worlds, Ayusso's strong showing in Tirreno shouldn't change in Catalunya. He will just be up against tougher adversaries on a route more suited to their climbing strengths.
 
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With Pogi and Almeida? Doubt it.

Well, they said that the Giro is his main goal this year so maybe it will stay this way (plus WC of course). As for Vuelta we will see if Pogi will be willing to actually race it following the Tour (and with WC in his mind). I doubt it TBH.
 
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